you can't have either on a frigate

especially subs

Not always

the point is to detect subs

sats obviously cant find subs

Most major nations have fucking amazing subs

Virtually silent when running dark

ASW, yes.. but the new subs are so silent, the new electronics need lots of power which frigates don't have

lots of power = more enginerooms = slower

A Russian one was 'lost' in the Med when NATO had 3 ships and aircraft tasked to track it

A Chink one popped up in the middle of a US wargame

>Undetected.

yeah, KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid

@Lucienne d'Anwyl Here is an example of a more reasonable (and more seasoned) smoked and slightly dried pork chop:
https://youtu.be/pLxfyuYL4Ms?t=965

more complicated a system, the easier it is to fool

Not always. @ManAnimal

meant to gain in flavor over time

and the harder it is for low IQ sailors to operate consistently

inb4 this plays out - parliament will be prorogued - boris + his staff will be forced to hand over tons of private communication to be aired in public. no extension will be forthcoming from the EU. Parliament will revoke article 50. An election will be called and Tories will win because of the backlash

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM so like what utility does that have?

Running silent burns less power than going active

is it only to be sandwich meat?

I.e. Keep It Simple (For) Stupid was the motto we used when wiritting manuals

@Lucienne d'Anwyl The utility is that I really like it. It is sandwich meat, ye

i dont think youd wanna cook with it

>Thinking ships have power issues today

and it lasts a long time too

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ah ok so just sandwiches?

crackers too i guess

Some ships still do, just not many

not right now, but ships will need more power for lasers and rail guns

not with that no. Smoked bacon is good for cooking thou

most do

They're designed to hold a specific weapons package and to power that. They power the weapons they have perfectly fine

goes really well in soups

Unless they're retrofitted and more is added, without sufficient power being added on top.

to make them a bit more hearty

The Zumwalt has power issues, part of why some of its armaments were scrapped

there is always a trade-off between ordinace capability, weight & power