and the new active sonar for ASW is a power hungry.. so the utiliity is rather low compared to a destroyer with vls

mm

how good are satellites at night?

because we can only build so many destroyers and cruisers before the price gets out of hand

For tracking ships?

I think I just figured out Boris's game plan

Bad.

rather trade two frigates for a single destroyer

and cant they use sonar which is more valuable than sat images

more utility

Sonar is situation based

>You hear EVERYONE around you

Including civilian ships

especially when you have rail guns AND traditional VLS

everything in a war is situational

lol

exactly what you want though,

you want both capabilities

you want to hear everyone

you can't have either on a frigate

especially subs

Not always

the point is to detect subs

sats obviously cant find subs

Most major nations have fucking amazing subs

Virtually silent when running dark

ASW, yes.. but the new subs are so silent, the new electronics need lots of power which frigates don't have

lots of power = more enginerooms = slower

A Russian one was 'lost' in the Med when NATO had 3 ships and aircraft tasked to track it

A Chink one popped up in the middle of a US wargame

>Undetected.

yeah, KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid

@Lucienne d'Anwyl Here is an example of a more reasonable (and more seasoned) smoked and slightly dried pork chop:
https://youtu.be/pLxfyuYL4Ms?t=965

more complicated a system, the easier it is to fool

Not always. @ManAnimal

meant to gain in flavor over time

and the harder it is for low IQ sailors to operate consistently

inb4 this plays out - parliament will be prorogued - boris + his staff will be forced to hand over tons of private communication to be aired in public. no extension will be forthcoming from the EU. Parliament will revoke article 50. An election will be called and Tories will win because of the backlash

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM so like what utility does that have?

Running silent burns less power than going active