@ManAnimal i cant belive im fucking agreeing with manimal

I agree with that @Marushia Dark however in the event one starts to support pre-emptive warfare that changes

@Spooky Melon Which country are you referring to exactly? Doesn't matter if they have nukes if they have no reason to use them, now doesn't it? UK and France have nukes, but they're our allies. NK has nukes, but if they make peace with SK and agree to leave Japan and the US alone, neither side has beef, so why do we care at that point?

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BENIS

ebin based gommunism ?

It's great to know my state is more worried about white supremacists in schools than the turds overflowing the streets

@Marushia Dark okay, lets take the example of North Korea, if Trump hadn't succeeded at diplomacy. **leaving them undisturbed**, whats stopping them from waiting around until they have 2000 nukes, might take a few years, and then launching?

I cant imagine how fucking deluded someone has to be

our pre-emptive strike?

oh wait

"it's not about bombing America; it's about bombing an ally of america under treaty requiring america to respond in turn"

And that entanglement of alliances is what actually led to WWI being more than just a spat between the Austrians and the Slavs

at a certain point, virtually every country with have a nuclear weapon. at that point any incursion risks a nuclear exchange

to think white supremacy is the primary issue in the states

correct

@Marushia Dark so we should never form alliances?

any countries?

ever?

he didn't say that

okay, but then WW1 happens.

Id also point out define ally

he just pointed out the historical precedent

show me where america has protection treaty with kurdish syria

Turkey = Nato

"Trade with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.” ―Thomas Jefferson.

@Marushia Dark okay, i guess we shouldn't have bothered sending aid to the allies in WW2, we shouldve only fought against japan.

They weren't all gems then.

Turkey is NATO but shouldn't be tbh

I dont fully agree with that . Thing is thomas jefferson existed in a time with drastically different power balance and a different world

britain was world police

so American cant attack them shit bust

@lancelout britain was world police, **and** we had fended off britain

Britain is still world police tbh, like whenever we went places people emulated us 🤔

i agree with that. a more specific interpretation of the Monroe Doctrine that accepts each country has their own sphere of influence

@Spooky Melon Basically, yeah. Our intervention in WWI led to the rise of the Nazis and the commies in WWII:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ8Sj9FFmRc

Even simple things like wearing berets and ironing creases in clothes

@Storin why aren't u in Hong Kong then?

again marushia

not really true

@Marushia Dark i said ww2.