correct

@Marushia Dark so we should never form alliances?

any countries?

ever?

he didn't say that

okay, but then WW1 happens.

Id also point out define ally

he just pointed out the historical precedent

show me where america has protection treaty with kurdish syria

Turkey = Nato

"Trade with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.” ―Thomas Jefferson.

@Marushia Dark okay, i guess we shouldn't have bothered sending aid to the allies in WW2, we shouldve only fought against japan.

They weren't all gems then.

Turkey is NATO but shouldn't be tbh

I dont fully agree with that . Thing is thomas jefferson existed in a time with drastically different power balance and a different world

britain was world police

so American cant attack them shit bust

@lancelout britain was world police, **and** we had fended off britain

Britain is still world police tbh, like whenever we went places people emulated us 🤔

i agree with that. a more specific interpretation of the Monroe Doctrine that accepts each country has their own sphere of influence

@Spooky Melon Basically, yeah. Our intervention in WWI led to the rise of the Nazis and the commies in WWII:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ8Sj9FFmRc

Even simple things like wearing berets and ironing creases in clothes

@Storin why aren't u in Hong Kong then?

again marushia

not really true

@Marushia Dark i said ww2.

americans actually didnt want to punish germans that much

france did

britain sortof did

Honestly we dont have the man power for that big an op

ww1 was a big oopsie blam

Whoopsie poopsie

The problem with the current paradigm is that it allows a 3rd rate nuclear power to frame a superpower in order to draw retaliation from another superpower

Cats out of the bag now though Manimal

as long as mutual retaliation treaties exist, it will only take a minor nuclear exchange to set off a cascade reaction

British army has 80,000 active soldiers, of that about 25% of them are broken or injured, so 60,000 deployable, of that you can only put them on for a max of 6 months, so at any one time 30,000, of that half of them are already away covering various things <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Setting aside whether FDR actually knew in advance about Pearl Harbor, you could argue we were attacked first by Japan and were justified in retaliating. The Empire of the Rising Sun was actually quite ruthless and fanatical compared to the Japanese of today. They were a lot like ISIL in their tactics of beheadings, kamikazing, and terror.

that's what bothers me about the dismissal of the mid-range missle treaty

@Marushia Dark okay, but we shouldve left germany alone, and not sent aid to the euros

because only japan had attacked.

The VHR units are probs the only ones you could call on to move quickly and even then they aren't a fighting force to hold ground