>person with a statue PFP
>saying something retarded

what are the proud boys then

i know mcinnes is the founder

and he seems to be a liberal

I just finished throwing something together for the upcoming civil war on fusion 360, am I allowed to post fusion 360 links on here?

it's an upgrade to your trusty spoon

Proud Boys is just MAGA fraternity.

The proud boys are a well organised group of mutli-racial young men who refuse to forgo their masculinity and are united by principle. They are everything the tyrant marxists hate and fear, that's why they get shat on 24/7 by the ***media***

From what I can gather, the politics of the group vary from liberal to traditionalist and libertarian. The group appears to have cast a wide net (politically), and also appears only to get into violence when the marxists show up. In fact that appears to be a major source of unity for the group, fighting 'far-left' politics.

If anything the proud boys are right wing, also i find liberal to be a pointless term here honestly since the left and right have definitions of the word

Liberal is pointless

It's more of a fighting word

But the *left* is losing the word because of the commies n such

"Liberals get the bullet too" n such

meanwhile in Australia liberal refers to the right wing party lol

lol

I don't even know what right wing in America is. I know neo-cons and trump

Then *what's right*

Ben Shapiro get cucked

Is it political to talk about religion?

I mean they bleed into each other a bit

I got some questions n stuff idk I ain't trying to needle anyone

I just don't get why people don't believe in God more. At least in metaphysical meanings in the least. Because I'm cool headed but even all this political stuff and the threat of our society n stuff falling a core tenant of our civilization is Christianity

What do u mean by the metaphysical meaning??

Like some stuff Jordan Peterson would say. Or the next teir above that.

The problem is that that’s super vague, not everything has to have some metaphysical meaning

Maybe not to the capacity of one person's being but not to another.

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Also having the meaning (not *everything* like what's the metaphysics of a rock thinking like some monk) in a nation and it's people.

My probably is that nothing your saying actually requires religion, u can build up a similar system without it

Doesn't need religion?

I don't think you get the full scope of what a religion is

Okay, what is ur scope on religion

My point is simply that secular countries can still operate with good laws and morals (as we see for the most part today)

Metaphysics matters imo. Not everybody has to delve into it completely like you said but just because you can't or you feel some people can't/don't have/need to doesn't mean one person who sees *potentiality* in the world around us can't take it in and share it. It's the explorer, inventor, scientist, and men of God/faith who share this essence. That's what leads us forward instead of staying stagnant as society is now within its morals and laws.

I feel like if you take any point in time morals and law would seem relatively “static”, also secular moral philosophy exists (and there are always lots of new moral problems especially to do with tech these days that let us go forward)

Well obviously not look at ppl today lol

Morals relating to people

Nobody would be acting out doing shootings or these socialist riots beating people if everyone didn't have a common belief and faith. At least not as much I would imagine. It would just be heated standards.

Nobody would be questioning their sexuality if they hadn't already believed, in good faith, God n His example n such.

People don’t agree on things no matter what they believe , like even within religions people disagree and cause a lot of shit...