"Liberals get the bullet too" n such

meanwhile in Australia liberal refers to the right wing party lol

lol

I don't even know what right wing in America is. I know neo-cons and trump

Then *what's right*

Ben Shapiro get cucked

Is it political to talk about religion?

I mean they bleed into each other a bit

I got some questions n stuff idk I ain't trying to needle anyone

I just don't get why people don't believe in God more. At least in metaphysical meanings in the least. Because I'm cool headed but even all this political stuff and the threat of our society n stuff falling a core tenant of our civilization is Christianity

What do u mean by the metaphysical meaning??

Like some stuff Jordan Peterson would say. Or the next teir above that.

The problem is that that’s super vague, not everything has to have some metaphysical meaning

Maybe not to the capacity of one person's being but not to another.

?

Also having the meaning (not *everything* like what's the metaphysics of a rock thinking like some monk) in a nation and it's people.

My probably is that nothing your saying actually requires religion, u can build up a similar system without it

Doesn't need religion?

I don't think you get the full scope of what a religion is

Okay, what is ur scope on religion

My point is simply that secular countries can still operate with good laws and morals (as we see for the most part today)

Metaphysics matters imo. Not everybody has to delve into it completely like you said but just because you can't or you feel some people can't/don't have/need to doesn't mean one person who sees *potentiality* in the world around us can't take it in and share it. It's the explorer, inventor, scientist, and men of God/faith who share this essence. That's what leads us forward instead of staying stagnant as society is now within its morals and laws.

I feel like if you take any point in time morals and law would seem relatively “static”, also secular moral philosophy exists (and there are always lots of new moral problems especially to do with tech these days that let us go forward)

Well obviously not look at ppl today lol

Morals relating to people

Nobody would be acting out doing shootings or these socialist riots beating people if everyone didn't have a common belief and faith. At least not as much I would imagine. It would just be heated standards.

Nobody would be questioning their sexuality if they hadn't already believed, in good faith, God n His example n such.

People don’t agree on things no matter what they believe , like even within religions people disagree and cause a lot of shit...

With protestantism and catholics I get understand lol even protestants within itself.

But even in the Catholic church there has been the schism since 1054 or something

I just want more people to be Christian lol modernity is a crock and all the subjective stuff revolving around us impacts the core of society n is making it act out like this.

I feel like its protestant's fault but I don't like catholics either so thats why I became an Orthodox Christian n it's pretty neat.

I don't think I could say some tid bit that could make everyone convert I just wanted to talk about it.

Well bringing it back to the original question, people are secular since they don’t see evidence for god, mostly because most “evidences” for god are from personal experience which results in people in religious circles to be the few who are exposed to anything that even be questionly be proofs

The "evidence" I don't think I communicated effectively is in metaphysics. For people who don't take in metaphysics or whatever that's where religion is to make things easier. I've taken a bunch of my time actually thinking a lot of this stuff through n such.

Metaphysics cannot produce emperical evidence.

A friend of mine showed me some writings by Aquinas

At best, metaphysics is conceptual wordplay.

It's how to express ideas

Just like there's meaning in literature and plays and such

Okay, but that's not evidence for god.