Message from @Eccles

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2019-09-03 22:40:33 UTC  

you're just inexperienced as a country at forming coalitions, NL has a four party coalition rn😂

2019-09-03 22:40:46 UTC  

Were used to being a two party state

2019-09-03 22:40:58 UTC  

Like the US really

2019-09-03 22:40:59 UTC  

true true, fptp and all tht

2019-09-03 22:41:03 UTC  

Though we wish we could get rid of labour

2019-09-03 22:41:19 UTC  

to replace with who? Lib dem?😂

2019-09-03 22:41:21 UTC  

It would be much better to have the old days of the Conservatives against the Liberals

2019-09-03 22:41:32 UTC  

actual liberals

2019-09-03 22:41:36 UTC  

Although i mean the old Liberals not the current Lib Dems

2019-09-03 22:41:43 UTC  

and not the US definition of liberal

2019-09-03 22:41:45 UTC  

They have been awful ever since they merged with the SDP

2019-09-03 22:41:49 UTC  

There are no liberals in the UK

2019-09-03 22:41:54 UTC  

There are a handful within Conservatives

2019-09-03 22:42:01 UTC  

Nearest liberal party is UKIP

2019-09-03 22:42:11 UTC  

illiberal undemocrats

2019-09-03 22:42:13 UTC  

There is a Libertarian Party

2019-09-03 22:42:20 UTC  

Libertarian !== Liberal

2019-09-03 22:42:32 UTC  

Although it is essentially non-existent when it comes to actual vote share

2019-09-03 22:42:50 UTC  

The Libertarians of today were the Liberals about 20-30 years ago

2019-09-03 22:43:28 UTC  

Libertarians are nearly as dumb as the Anarcho-Capitalists

2019-09-03 22:43:46 UTC  

ehhh dont know if i agree with that Electic lizard

2019-09-03 22:43:50 UTC  

Humans require authority and hierarchy

2019-09-03 22:44:21 UTC  

dont project your needs on me buddy😜

2019-09-03 22:44:38 UTC  

I think all the true Liberals have adopted the Libertarian label because of the path of modern day liberals

2019-09-03 22:44:46 UTC  

im a strong independent young individual who needs no hierarchy

2019-09-03 22:44:48 UTC  

I mean in the aggregate

2019-09-03 22:45:05 UTC  

ik 😄

2019-09-03 22:45:12 UTC  

Nah, you do, society needs it because it's how large complicated organisations work

2019-09-03 22:45:17 UTC  

It's the only way they work, inf act

2019-09-03 22:45:39 UTC  

reee muh voluntaryism

2019-09-03 22:45:41 UTC  

I disagree with that

2019-09-03 22:45:41 UTC  

I don't mean there has to be a large state, or strict laws

2019-09-03 22:45:46 UTC  

We need very limited Government

2019-09-03 22:46:00 UTC  

But there does need to be structure, objective rules that are seen to be obeyed. People need to be able to trust the system

2019-09-03 22:46:04 UTC  

And at the moment they simply do not

2019-09-03 22:46:27 UTC  

We shouldn't go all Ayn Rand with voluntaryism but we should have a very limited Government

2019-09-03 22:46:53 UTC  

rather than saying "very limited", i would say "clearly delineated"

2019-09-03 22:47:03 UTC  

Hoping you appreciate the difference

2019-09-03 22:47:15 UTC  

i think it should just have limited power

2019-09-03 22:47:50 UTC  

I would go for "clearly delineated" and "very limited"