shitty vs shit hole

i'll take shitty

So story goes like this

Typical leftist propaganda, anti-russian propaganda

Soviet Union dissolves

It was dodgy as fuck, but nevertheless it was desired

Misrepresenting the facts

Ukraine becomes independent

US and Russia should be allies

Think about it

No

That's not how it went

well the former president of Ukranine TRIED to reach a deal with Russia BEFORE he was replaced

Russia and the US are the only ones doing space missions so why not be allies

he was replace by the WEST in favor of a Pro-eu fascist

But surprise surprise like all former Soviet nations it's ruled by a bunch of former communist party members and oligarchs

literal fascist

@Andrew Popa 2.0 only barely. Their military isnt that great tbh.i mean it's probably better than most, but they can't really keep it up, especially what should be their strongest stuff.

that guy was a nut

eccles - nah, the people in a captured area will side with whatever side is in control... do you think the russians on the wrong side of stalingrad where telling the germans to go home? nah... they where like 'yes its better now with you.. please dont kill us'

Now a young independent nation Ukraine is left with a pro Russian Government and 4000 Soviet nuclear warheads on their soil

The US is building the best stealth plane in the world

The b21 raider

And also a shit ton of ICBMs

Pff

lol @nim.bm

The US and Russia could combine technology and become unstoppable

Ukraine should've kept the nukes

Andrew Popa drank the CIA kool-aid

"please don't kill us"

eccles - as another example look at iraq and syria in the areas isis took... they sided with isis in poles done by isis

@ur mom college neat.

@JackH670 Tories are just preparing to strike tbh

hell no Jack1

maybe, nim.bm, but it's neverthless a lot more complcated than people want to make out

yes they are Mikey lmao

At trotsky

if we let Ukranine have nukes, we'd all be glowing in the damn dark

cuz if they had said no... isis would have likely killed them and the poles woulda still said most people 'alive' want isis

Ukraine then gives all those nukes and ICBMs to Russia in exchange for Russia promising that they will respect Ukrainian territorial integrity