Message from @🌌Dougal 🌌
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He was out the picture at this point
The Kaiser ruined that by involving Germany in a war that didn't involve them at all
The conflict could have been completely avoided
Austria could just invade Serbia and win, Then they would just leave after since they had no plans for annexation, Conflict over
And you don't need a World War
wait, but that was the reason the war happend
You're forgetting Russia's alliance with Serbia
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Russia wouldn't have intervened with pressure from the Kaiser
you mean the pressure of going to war?
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They were childhood friends in the firstplace, The Tsar was on the verge of backing out real life
sure but they still fought
If the Kaiser simply encouraged him to stay out of it i think he would have listened
Especially if Germany was staying out of it too
The alliance wouldn't have made much of a difference given that Serbia would remain independent after the war
Because Austria had been forced by Hungary to not annex Serbia
So the alliance could just continue after
hmm, idk, dont think it was that simple then, but whatever, shit happend. Nothing we can do anything about now anymore
No i am just making the point that the First World War didn't need to happen in the first place and because of our actions in the First World War we caused a Second World War
Millions of lives lost because of France and the UK turning 1 unnecessary war into 2 unnecessary wars
oh I agree, the first world war could have been avoided, I just dont think it was that simple
Think about what would have happened if there was no intervention
Austria invade and takes over, Declares Victory and leaves, Serbia remains independent and goes back to their Alliance with Russia.
Easy
well, a lot of military tech would have not been developed until later, the entire russian revolution could not have happend at all
hell down the line
That's a good thing
we might not even get atomic bombs by 1945 but much later
The Russian Revolution wasn't a good thing
well, a lot of modern civilian tech depends on mil tech developed then
I'd say by the 30s at least there would have been something very similar to WW1
yes but the general impact of that is huge though
the Soviet union was crucial to american behaviour in the cold war
tbh the USSR is bad but Tsarist Russia was jsut a joke
Think about what is avoided though
No WW1, That means Hitler would never rise to power to cause another World War, That leads to no Communist Russia which means no Cold War
3 major conflicts avoided
but how many caused?