Message from @Dubdogelmo

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2019-11-23 23:53:42 UTC  

just for different reasons

2019-11-23 23:53:50 UTC  

if the Allies put the massive reparations shit on them'

2019-11-23 23:54:00 UTC  

A war between the USSR and Germany would still be WW2 for all intents and purposes

2019-11-23 23:54:06 UTC  

There should have been no punishment on Germany at all

2019-11-23 23:54:15 UTC  

there SHOULD have been

2019-11-23 23:54:19 UTC  

but France was a little bitch

2019-11-23 23:54:24 UTC  

They should have just acknowledged that the war was stupid and they both made mistakes and that is it

2019-11-23 23:54:35 UTC  

No punishment to either side

2019-11-23 23:55:03 UTC  

Well leaving Germany in a strong position would have led to another war

2019-11-23 23:55:14 UTC  

No it wouldn't have

2019-11-23 23:55:38 UTC  

Remember the war began because Austria wanted to invade Serbia

2019-11-23 23:55:38 UTC  

and its unreasonable eg for the French not to expect Alsace Lorraine after the huge effort of the war

2019-11-23 23:56:09 UTC  

My point is that the war shouldn't have happened in the first place

2019-11-23 23:56:18 UTC  

It was a stupid war over nothing

2019-11-23 23:56:21 UTC  

nah WW1 was as a result of the tensions inherent in Europe at the time and wouldve happened anyway

2019-11-23 23:56:37 UTC  

But yeah Britain shouldve stayed out of it

2019-11-23 23:56:42 UTC  

No it wouldn't have

2019-11-23 23:57:00 UTC  

Otto Von Bismarck worked very hard ensuring the power balance prevented any wars

2019-11-23 23:57:16 UTC  

Yeah, the assassination was merely the breaking-point

2019-11-23 23:57:20 UTC  

He was out the picture at this point

2019-11-23 23:57:32 UTC  

The Kaiser ruined that by involving Germany in a war that didn't involve them at all

2019-11-23 23:57:56 UTC  

The conflict could have been completely avoided

2019-11-23 23:58:34 UTC  

Austria could just invade Serbia and win, Then they would just leave after since they had no plans for annexation, Conflict over

2019-11-23 23:58:52 UTC  

And you don't need a World War

2019-11-23 23:58:54 UTC  

wait, but that was the reason the war happend

2019-11-23 23:58:57 UTC  

You're forgetting Russia's alliance with Serbia

2019-11-23 23:59:01 UTC  

^

2019-11-23 23:59:05 UTC  

^

2019-11-23 23:59:07 UTC  

Russia wouldn't have intervened with pressure from the Kaiser

2019-11-23 23:59:23 UTC  

you mean the pressure of going to war?

2019-11-23 23:59:26 UTC  

🤷‍♂️

2019-11-23 23:59:29 UTC  

They were childhood friends in the firstplace, The Tsar was on the verge of backing out real life

2019-11-23 23:59:40 UTC  

sure but they still fought

2019-11-23 23:59:51 UTC  

If the Kaiser simply encouraged him to stay out of it i think he would have listened

2019-11-24 00:00:02 UTC  

Especially if Germany was staying out of it too

2019-11-24 00:01:03 UTC  

The alliance wouldn't have made much of a difference given that Serbia would remain independent after the war

2019-11-24 00:01:19 UTC  

Because Austria had been forced by Hungary to not annex Serbia

2019-11-24 00:01:33 UTC  

So the alliance could just continue after

2019-11-24 00:02:26 UTC  

hmm, idk, dont think it was that simple then, but whatever, shit happend. Nothing we can do anything about now anymore