Message from @Dubdogelmo
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No i am just making the point that the First World War didn't need to happen in the first place and because of our actions in the First World War we caused a Second World War
Millions of lives lost because of France and the UK turning 1 unnecessary war into 2 unnecessary wars
oh I agree, the first world war could have been avoided, I just dont think it was that simple
Think about what would have happened if there was no intervention
Austria invade and takes over, Declares Victory and leaves, Serbia remains independent and goes back to their Alliance with Russia.
Easy
well, a lot of military tech would have not been developed until later, the entire russian revolution could not have happend at all
hell down the line
That's a good thing
we might not even get atomic bombs by 1945 but much later
The Russian Revolution wasn't a good thing
well, a lot of modern civilian tech depends on mil tech developed then
I'd say by the 30s at least there would have been something very similar to WW1
yes but the general impact of that is huge though
the Soviet union was crucial to american behaviour in the cold war
tbh the USSR is bad but Tsarist Russia was jsut a joke
Think about what is avoided though
No WW1, That means Hitler would never rise to power to cause another World War, That leads to no Communist Russia which means no Cold War
3 major conflicts avoided
a lot of suffering yea, but what if without ww1 and ww2 we'd have an even bigger conflict, what if somehow, this reality is the best outcome, as horrible as that may sound. (hypotheticals are fun to think about)
There would be no reason for conflict
America was never that opposed to Monarchism
So no American - Russian Conflict
The Power balance made by Bismarck would prevent any major wars in Europe
`this reality is the best outcome, as horrible as that may sound` casually calling the holocaust the best possible outcome, woosh😂
but yea, no ww1 would prevent a lot of trouble
might even have a bigger surviving british empire then<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
The Empire wouldn't last
Decolonisation would probably still happen
Maybe later then in our time
But it would still happen
would be slower though, with the soviets not supplying arms to all the colonies
Colonialism simply wasn't profitable
the american pressure on decolonisation would still be enough ye
It was far too expensive to maintain an Empire and it came with few benefits
by that point yea, maintaining it was a matter of honour for many people (here in the NL atleast)
It might be maintained slightly longer but it would be decolonised eventually
The only major different would probablly be that Ireland would still be part of the UK
you dont think the Irish would eventually get uppity there?