Message from @Αγωνιζῆς

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2019-11-24 00:00:02 UTC  

Especially if Germany was staying out of it too

2019-11-24 00:01:03 UTC  

The alliance wouldn't have made much of a difference given that Serbia would remain independent after the war

2019-11-24 00:01:19 UTC  

Because Austria had been forced by Hungary to not annex Serbia

2019-11-24 00:01:33 UTC  

So the alliance could just continue after

2019-11-24 00:02:26 UTC  

hmm, idk, dont think it was that simple then, but whatever, shit happend. Nothing we can do anything about now anymore

2019-11-24 00:03:12 UTC  

No i am just making the point that the First World War didn't need to happen in the first place and because of our actions in the First World War we caused a Second World War

2019-11-24 00:04:00 UTC  

Millions of lives lost because of France and the UK turning 1 unnecessary war into 2 unnecessary wars

2019-11-24 00:04:03 UTC  

oh I agree, the first world war could have been avoided, I just dont think it was that simple

2019-11-24 00:04:48 UTC  

Think about what would have happened if there was no intervention

2019-11-24 00:05:35 UTC  

Austria invade and takes over, Declares Victory and leaves, Serbia remains independent and goes back to their Alliance with Russia.

2019-11-24 00:05:42 UTC  

Easy

2019-11-24 00:05:43 UTC  

well, a lot of military tech would have not been developed until later, the entire russian revolution could not have happend at all

2019-11-24 00:05:48 UTC  

hell down the line

2019-11-24 00:05:52 UTC  

That's a good thing

2019-11-24 00:06:02 UTC  

we might not even get atomic bombs by 1945 but much later

2019-11-24 00:06:17 UTC  

The Russian Revolution wasn't a good thing

2019-11-24 00:06:21 UTC  

well, a lot of modern civilian tech depends on mil tech developed then

2019-11-24 00:06:33 UTC  

I'd say by the 30s at least there would have been something very similar to WW1

2019-11-24 00:06:33 UTC  

yes but the general impact of that is huge though

2019-11-24 00:06:50 UTC  

the Soviet union was crucial to american behaviour in the cold war

2019-11-24 00:07:00 UTC  

tbh the USSR is bad but Tsarist Russia was jsut a joke

2019-11-24 00:07:03 UTC  

Think about what is avoided though

2019-11-24 00:07:36 UTC  

No WW1, That means Hitler would never rise to power to cause another World War, That leads to no Communist Russia which means no Cold War

2019-11-24 00:07:52 UTC  

3 major conflicts avoided

2019-11-24 00:08:45 UTC  

but how many caused?

2019-11-24 00:08:49 UTC  

a lot of suffering yea, but what if without ww1 and ww2 we'd have an even bigger conflict, what if somehow, this reality is the best outcome, as horrible as that may sound. (hypotheticals are fun to think about)

2019-11-24 00:09:18 UTC  

There would be no reason for conflict

2019-11-24 00:09:27 UTC  

America was never that opposed to Monarchism

2019-11-24 00:09:39 UTC  

So no American - Russian Conflict

2019-11-24 00:10:01 UTC  

The Power balance made by Bismarck would prevent any major wars in Europe

2019-11-24 00:10:06 UTC  

`this reality is the best outcome, as horrible as that may sound` casually calling the holocaust the best possible outcome, woosh😂

2019-11-24 00:11:16 UTC  

but yea, no ww1 would prevent a lot of trouble

2019-11-24 00:11:27 UTC  

might even have a bigger surviving british empire then<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-11-24 00:11:50 UTC  

The Empire wouldn't last

2019-11-24 00:11:58 UTC  

Decolonisation would probably still happen

2019-11-24 00:12:06 UTC  

Maybe later then in our time

2019-11-24 00:12:12 UTC  

But it would still happen

2019-11-24 00:12:18 UTC  

would be slower though, with the soviets not supplying arms to all the colonies

2019-11-24 00:12:29 UTC  

Colonialism simply wasn't profitable

2019-11-24 00:12:31 UTC  

the american pressure on decolonisation would still be enough ye