@Sar

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People who think they follow the Bible and Christ don’t actually follow either one.

uh huh

They follow their own understanding and their pride.

Is their own understanding based on following their heart?

It’s based on following Satan and thinking it’s God

And Satan plants impulses in what, if not the heart?

What’s your point?

That the average person is not pure in heart, like I said. It sounds like you agree.

Including most “Bible believing Christians”

Right, agreed

Not because they believe in the Bible or Christ but because being pure in heart is the level of completely righteous/saint

Someone who is righteous but not completely righteous still has evil thoughts but recognizes them as such, and they don't hold any sway over him

That sounds like an excuse to stay evil?

The concept of sainthood is an excuse to stay evil? What do you mean?

You just said completely righteous/saint, so obviously not. I’m talking about “Righteous but not completely righteous” geez. Are you actually open?

@Hake do you follow the bible and Christ?

No.

Interesting

I understand the bible...but to be a believer you must follow Christ, no?

Yes, you must follow Christ.

Ahh I see what you meant

You don't have to follow both

I don't like people that take the bible serious and quote scriptures all the time

I honestly don’t know if we should have doctrine discussions if we’re not living it. Cultures already too intellectual and prideful and self deceived as it is.

The Bible says to lean not on your own understanding yet that’s all I do, and all I see others doing.

what does doctrine mean in the sense that is intended by this forum?