Someone on Radio 4 today stated it'd only cost 16bn a year to move social care into the NHS. Sounds awfully low to me

While at the same time being absolutely essential

We do have food banks and hostels here

If you've got people on the streets, then the social system has already failed them

Have you seen the people on the streets?

Not yours, no

They're all thieves and drug addicts. Giving them free shit doesn't help, they only end up abusing it and going straight back onto the street.

I didn't say "give them free shit"

I said if they're on the streets, then the social system has already failed them

Why did they end up as thieves and drug addicts? What's the best way to alleviate either at a societal and cultural level?

Probably because of the areas in which they live. I reckon a lot of the homeless come from the proper rough area, the one where posties aren't allowed to go after a certain time etc

Concentrated poverty, then

Family breakdown

It's the area you don't go because they all know who lives there and they'll target any kind of outsiders.

Pretty much everyone there is a fatherless household on benefits.

Probably needs bulldozing and it's population dispersed

That's what was happening in an area my dad used to live in before he moved in with my mum.

Thatcher did away with the nearest thing we had to a ghetto in the town I grew up in

With right to buy - enough bought up the council houses that the area self-gentrified

They built new houses and more socially aware people moved in, upping the value and improving the area somewhat.

Before that it was an area you didn't go unless you wanted to be stabbed.

We need decent, dispersed, low density council housing in huge numbers across the country

Example of how that area was. My dad moved in and there was two bullet holes in the window. When he moved out after getting robbed, the house was turned into a brothel.

Sounds great

This is why all cities need the nuke

But I don't live in a city

There should be maximum population density limits in place through 99% of the landmass

When my dad was burgled, they found a machete on his window ledge, and the bloke up the road came to speak to him. He said he knew who burgled him and would be able to prevent it in the future.

When the police found out who it was, the guy from up the road came back and said that the bloke who did it would be walking with a limp for the rest of his life.

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Where my dad grew up, they used to go out and not lock their doors

I used to ride around the square in the middle on a mini moto when I was nine

I bet everyone used to love that

Well, my dad was fixing one up for his mate, so I flew around on it to test it when he was done fiddling it

Little red Suzuki GSXR replica

My sister is several years older than me, so when her friend came around on her new 50cc moped, she dared me to ride it thinking i wouldn't

I crashed my moped twice.

Once into the back of a car and another time, I slid into the main road

Fell off a bike into a rose bush once

so?

Had to have emergency tetenus shots 🙂