Message from @Eccles

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2019-11-11 18:57:37 UTC  

It's a NE town, after all

2019-11-11 18:57:54 UTC  

Fortunately I have a spare to replace it with, Crafty, it has had little use

2019-11-11 18:58:34 UTC  

I know trains were a huge market considering the history of the town and trains in general.

2019-11-11 18:59:19 UTC  

They could still be if governments had vision

2019-11-11 18:59:57 UTC  

That's bureaucracy for you

2019-11-11 19:00:22 UTC  

Steel was also big here

2019-11-11 19:00:42 UTC  

Instead of improving and greening public transport and freight, self loathing progressive urban cunts like PeP and the PFE are insistent on taking a massive shit on living standards and people's freedom to travel

2019-11-11 19:01:38 UTC  

tbh buses are okay here. Even if they decided not to come every other Saturday

2019-11-11 19:01:52 UTC  

Is it a fleet of electric/gas buses?

2019-11-11 19:02:01 UTC  

Is it so cheap that it's cheaper than a car?

2019-11-11 19:02:06 UTC  

Which is a pain when I am at the bus stop until 8:30pm and it's supposed to arrive at 8pm

2019-11-11 19:02:20 UTC  

It's cheaper than a car, yes. But I've just decided to walk through town instead.

2019-11-11 19:02:29 UTC  

Even if I have to walk down a proper rough area of town it's w/e

2019-11-11 19:03:28 UTC  

But it's not electric/gas though, so it's not green

2019-11-11 19:03:40 UTC  

It's not the roughest area in town, but there's always a fire in a specific section because that's where some homeless sleep

2019-11-11 19:03:50 UTC  

But it is a fleet of electric/gas

2019-11-11 19:03:57 UTC  

They have that stupid white bulge on the roof

2019-11-11 19:04:00 UTC  

Sounds like they need to get their shit together and get these homeless people the help they need

2019-11-11 19:04:28 UTC  

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2019-11-11 19:04:50 UTC  

Someone on Radio 4 today stated it'd only cost 16bn a year to move social care into the NHS. Sounds awfully low to me

2019-11-11 19:05:14 UTC  

While at the same time being absolutely essential

2019-11-11 19:05:24 UTC  

We do have food banks and hostels here

2019-11-11 19:05:57 UTC  

If you've got people on the streets, then the social system has already failed them

2019-11-11 19:06:36 UTC  

Have you seen the people on the streets?

2019-11-11 19:06:45 UTC  

Not yours, no

2019-11-11 19:07:02 UTC  

They're all thieves and drug addicts. Giving them free shit doesn't help, they only end up abusing it and going straight back onto the street.

2019-11-11 19:07:15 UTC  

I didn't say "give them free shit"

2019-11-11 19:07:26 UTC  

I said if they're on the streets, then the social system has already failed them

2019-11-11 19:07:47 UTC  

Why did they end up as thieves and drug addicts? What's the best way to alleviate either at a societal and cultural level?

2019-11-11 19:08:43 UTC  

Probably because of the areas in which they live. I reckon a lot of the homeless come from the proper rough area, the one where posties aren't allowed to go after a certain time etc

2019-11-11 19:09:14 UTC  

Concentrated poverty, then

2019-11-11 19:09:16 UTC  

Family breakdown

2019-11-11 19:09:24 UTC  

It's the area you don't go because they all know who lives there and they'll target any kind of outsiders.

2019-11-11 19:09:41 UTC  

Pretty much everyone there is a fatherless household on benefits.

2019-11-11 19:10:09 UTC  

Probably needs bulldozing and it's population dispersed

2019-11-11 19:10:31 UTC  

That's what was happening in an area my dad used to live in before he moved in with my mum.

2019-11-11 19:10:37 UTC  

Thatcher did away with the nearest thing we had to a ghetto in the town I grew up in

2019-11-11 19:10:59 UTC  

With right to buy - enough bought up the council houses that the area self-gentrified

2019-11-11 19:11:06 UTC  

They built new houses and more socially aware people moved in, upping the value and improving the area somewhat.

2019-11-11 19:11:17 UTC  

Before that it was an area you didn't go unless you wanted to be stabbed.