Message from @whiic
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You love to focus on one thing when I say several things
Technically, malnourisment does cause gene damage ... if you don't eat, you can't make new cells but the old ones still die, and you are under replacement rate for genetic material
That wiki also doesn't contain "nutrition" or "alcohol" in it.
How does that article prove FAS is caused by genetic damage?
Alcohol abuse can cause DNA damage
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3685494/
https://gyazo.com/87e1e9439d920a97c2e67860ad37d9df
Shit. I'm reminded of the superfluous stink raised over so-called "frankenfoods," a.k.a. genetically-modified organisms. FFS even if you do tweak its DNA, it's still food!
@Goddess Tyche That's a rather sophist way to put it. Because the only way for genes to be damaged is for cell to die.
@whiic I'm just having the same level of discussion as you two
And "your" genome is the genes of those cells still alive, so for "your" genes to get damaged by malnutrition, **you need to die first**.
Can't blame me for it, can you?
And by that point, fearing cancer is rather redundant.
I keep looking up the facts about this that I've gathered but you keep rejecting them without reading them properly, so yeah
Not wasting my time anymore, g'day
I'm done, if you ping me again I'll block you
@whiic It kinda is, though, it's just that you're not abusing it voluntarily, and doing it when it has the most potential to fuck you up.
Are we counting epigenetics here
I feel like epigenetics are worth counting
ETBrooD has a funny way of emphasizing what in uncertain over what is certain:
oh wait it's still this conversation
thought it was a different one, carry on then
We are discussing if compound fractures are caused by genes, or if instead they cause genetic mutations.
The possibility that they might be related to environment have been outruled.
Everything life does is caused by genes, in a sense; but just as calling everything 'political' simply creates a worthless term, so too does calling everything 'genetic'.
Certainly you may be more or less likely to cause a child to suffer from FAS, and certainly it is within the realm of possibility that some mechanism that warns a mother from drinking while pregnant could indeed erode over time, but in the end, FAS is not itself a heritable disorder, but an induced disfigurement.
In other words, ETBrooD, get owned
didnt think about that
i like the idea of gay people basically acting like Eunuchs
can leave them home with the women to protect them, without worrying about them raping
and the somoa idea of a third gender i like
But what if your wife rapes the gay?
women cant rape
thats ridiculous
@Jym
well I did not make that assertion. Merely pointed out that the view of DNA as an unchanging code was wrong. But FWIW on diet and starvation your mother's can have a big effect on your genes. An awful lot of methylation occurs in vitro. Which makes sense if you think about it this bundle of cells has to figure out where to turn into a toenail and where to turn into a kidney etc etc,
This creates an excellent opportunity for the mother's endocrine system which is in contact with the outside world to (and this is a very crude description) help the child develop so as to be survivable in that world. Look into the Dutch Hunger Winter phenomena it can actually be heritable while not strictly in the DNA code.
Same as Europe