Message from @D3bug_logic

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2019-11-11 03:29:31 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine and that is conservativism that is dead for a good reason.
cause ya'll purity spiral into oblivion. You see the difference between ideological possession and religion is how well it maps onto the world. both right and left wing ideas are incomplete pictures.
American conservativism is radical thinking that incorporates both order and chaos to maintain order and regenerate itself.
Similar to Christianity and other religions.

2019-11-11 03:30:01 UTC  

'conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit'

2019-11-11 03:30:19 UTC  

progressivism is meaningless

2019-11-11 03:30:37 UTC  

Paleo or social conservatism?

2019-11-11 03:30:38 UTC  

progressing to what?

2019-11-11 03:30:44 UTC  

Will purity spiral?

2019-11-11 03:30:51 UTC  

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/826117-it-may-be-inferred-again-that-the-present-movement-for

This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.

- Robert Lewis Dabney Chaplain, Confederate Army; Chief of Staff, Stonewall Jackson

2019-11-11 03:31:01 UTC  

dont know what it progresses to, it goes as fast as it needs to go, which is naturally through culture, gradually

2019-11-11 03:31:19 UTC  

its like working towards a computer when you start in 100AD

2019-11-11 03:31:26 UTC  

itll come when its time to

2019-11-11 03:31:43 UTC  

no radical enforcing like the Leftists want

2019-11-11 03:31:45 UTC  

Fords consrvativism will purity spiral

2019-11-11 03:31:51 UTC  

like forcing latinos to call themselves latinx

2019-11-11 03:32:08 UTC  

This is what is generally meant by 'progressives'

2019-11-11 03:32:15 UTC  

> Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents the past as an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in modern forms of liberal democracy and constitutional monarchy.

2019-11-11 03:32:20 UTC  

if they eventually call themselves that by their choice in the culture, fine

2019-11-11 03:32:23 UTC  

Nah I don’t think so

2019-11-11 03:32:30 UTC  

Reactionaries reject it

2019-11-11 03:32:34 UTC  

in america during the formation of the wigg party yes thats what it means

2019-11-11 03:32:46 UTC  

christianity was extremely progressive

2019-11-11 03:33:01 UTC  

> Whig history is a form of liberalism, putting its faith in the power of human reason to reshape society for the better, regardless of past history and tradition. It proposes the inevitable progress of humankind. Whig history has many similarities with the Marxist theory of history, which presupposes that humanity is moving through historical stages to the classless, egalitarian society to which communism aspires.

2019-11-11 03:33:07 UTC  

It is just a less radical form of Marxism

2019-11-11 03:33:12 UTC  

lmao

2019-11-11 03:33:24 UTC  

and thats from what?

2019-11-11 03:33:44 UTC  

Read Revolutions and the revolutionary tradition in the West, 1560–1991 by David Parker

2019-11-11 03:33:44 UTC  

wiki

2019-11-11 03:34:09 UTC  

so where is the whig party?

2019-11-11 03:34:20 UTC  

What?

2019-11-11 03:34:58 UTC  

I'm saying the view of Whig Historiography is just a less radical version of Marxist Historiography

2019-11-11 03:35:18 UTC  

yea that sounds more like revisionist history

2019-11-11 03:35:23 UTC  

One of inevitable social progress towards liberalism, often presented positively

2019-11-11 03:35:32 UTC  

by marxists that claim liberalism is a step towards marxism

2019-11-11 03:35:46 UTC  

Youtube is Facilitating the Scamming of MILLIONS While Doing NOTHING About it
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvE2SBiPc_4

2019-11-11 03:35:47 UTC  

It has many parallels

2019-11-11 03:35:54 UTC  

liberalism = freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt hurt other people

2019-11-11 03:35:59 UTC  

Egalitarianism is one of them

2019-11-11 03:36:01 UTC  

its like saying christianity is marxism

2019-11-11 03:36:11 UTC  

marxism = fuck you if you do any of these things, or dont give your money to the state, youre gulagged

2019-11-11 03:36:13 UTC  

Not really, read up the quoted part again

2019-11-11 03:36:47 UTC  

>liberalism = freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt hurt other people
That's denying the societal impacts of individual's actions