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@whiic nice straw man but yeah obviously we don’t care for just the ethnostate it’s just we always end up debating it
Whatever
@Monstrous Moonshine and that is conservativism that is dead for a good reason.
cause ya'll purity spiral into oblivion. You see the difference between ideological possession and religion is how well it maps onto the world. both right and left wing ideas are incomplete pictures.
American conservativism is radical thinking that incorporates both order and chaos to maintain order and regenerate itself.
Similar to Christianity and other religions.
'conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit'
progressivism is meaningless
Paleo or social conservatism?
progressing to what?
Will purity spiral?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/826117-it-may-be-inferred-again-that-the-present-movement-for
This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.
- Robert Lewis Dabney Chaplain, Confederate Army; Chief of Staff, Stonewall Jackson
dont know what it progresses to, it goes as fast as it needs to go, which is naturally through culture, gradually
its like working towards a computer when you start in 100AD
itll come when its time to
no radical enforcing like the Leftists want
Fords consrvativism will purity spiral
like forcing latinos to call themselves latinx
This is what is generally meant by 'progressives'
> Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents the past as an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in modern forms of liberal democracy and constitutional monarchy.
if they eventually call themselves that by their choice in the culture, fine
Reactionaries reject it
in america during the formation of the wigg party yes thats what it means
christianity was extremely progressive
> Whig history is a form of liberalism, putting its faith in the power of human reason to reshape society for the better, regardless of past history and tradition. It proposes the inevitable progress of humankind. Whig history has many similarities with the Marxist theory of history, which presupposes that humanity is moving through historical stages to the classless, egalitarian society to which communism aspires.
It is just a less radical form of Marxism
lmao
and thats from what?
Read Revolutions and the revolutionary tradition in the West, 1560–1991 by David Parker
wiki
so where is the whig party?
What?
I'm saying the view of Whig Historiography is just a less radical version of Marxist Historiography
yea that sounds more like revisionist history
One of inevitable social progress towards liberalism, often presented positively
by marxists that claim liberalism is a step towards marxism
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvE2SBiPc_4
It has many parallels
liberalism = freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt hurt other people
Egalitarianism is one of them
its like saying christianity is marxism