Message from @Monstrous Moonshine
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This is what is generally meant by 'progressives'
> Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents the past as an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in modern forms of liberal democracy and constitutional monarchy.
if they eventually call themselves that by their choice in the culture, fine
Nah I don’t think so
Reactionaries reject it
in america during the formation of the wigg party yes thats what it means
christianity was extremely progressive
> Whig history is a form of liberalism, putting its faith in the power of human reason to reshape society for the better, regardless of past history and tradition. It proposes the inevitable progress of humankind. Whig history has many similarities with the Marxist theory of history, which presupposes that humanity is moving through historical stages to the classless, egalitarian society to which communism aspires.
It is just a less radical form of Marxism
lmao
and thats from what?
Read Revolutions and the revolutionary tradition in the West, 1560–1991 by David Parker
wiki
so where is the whig party?
What?
I'm saying the view of Whig Historiography is just a less radical version of Marxist Historiography
yea that sounds more like revisionist history
One of inevitable social progress towards liberalism, often presented positively
by marxists that claim liberalism is a step towards marxism
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liberalism = freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt hurt other people
Egalitarianism is one of them
its like saying christianity is marxism
marxism = fuck you if you do any of these things, or dont give your money to the state, youre gulagged
Not really, read up the quoted part again
>liberalism = freedom to do what you want so long as it doesnt hurt other people
That's denying the societal impacts of individual's actions
obtaining food is the goal of marxism, because captial markets do it thats marxism
Marxism is a radical egalitarian philosophy which aims to remove all barriers
They tend to focus more on class barriers
Lately they have been focusing on gender and sexuality
Traditonalism is embracing these barriers and the reality of Natural Order
while I agree there consequences to everyones actions and take a more extensionality perspective on it (see dostophesky or solzenhen).
Force does not equate to a better way
as the catholics would say you can do anything you want but would be better off doing these things
but a free choice made is better than a coerced choice
It depends on a lot of factors
Homogeneous societies are the optimal conditions for Traditional societies
but can become stale and unproductive and prevent changes that could improve society
Deracinated, atomized hedonist multiculturalism is optimal for Marxist egalitarianism
Where everyone is a rootless transnational individual disconnected from his heritage, living in a pod and eating bugs
yes but hedonism will lead to a swing back towards traditionalism as it currently is now