Message from @Lucienne d'Anwyl
Discord ID: 642935708641787927
Nobody likes anybody that gets exemptions from the rules.
you make a SINGLE exception, it will be twisted and contorted to make subjective speech verboten
anti-semitism iS a caveat
That it will.
because some cannot tell the difference between legit being critical of israel
A sad thing you didn't export your love for freedom to Europe.
and being anti-jew
If nobody likes anybody that gets exemptions from the rules, people wouldn't hold ambassadors in a high regard.
There is nothing wrong with being anti-jewish and nothing wrong with being critical of Israel. As long as you do not take violent action.
Some retard in my friendslist has a free game in his steam wishlist <:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>
that isn't the point Zak
<:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>
the point is that those are two seperate positions
Look, Samar, he's saving up for it.
Personally i agree, calls to violence mean nothing without actors. i think you should be able to charge someone with a call to violence if someone commits' violence in response to that call, but nothing else
@Ethaneth People don't hold ambassadors in high regard. Only elites do. And that is because elites think they are special, too.
and if you cannot tell the difference, it becomes a caveat to free speech
No, that's absolutely incorrect, ambassadors are in high regard at every level.
what if people commit violence
Its the only game in his wishlist too wtf
what then
you cant hold someone accountable for other peoples actions
action is not the same as speech even if the speech is a cALL to action
@Shai'tan No. You hold people responsible for what they do. If they preach violence... well... then you establish whether or not they have done so widely and if there is an actual problem. But fucking hell... every exception punches a massive hole into FREE SPEECH.
people either have individual faculty.... or they DO NOT
if people DO NOT, speech CANNOT be free
period
Even a call to action is still just a bunch of fucking words.
exactly
The people who act are the criminals.
exactly
Ma you think free speech is only speech or expression also
?
it's an expression
freedom of expression
Writing for example
Does that count
and that does NOT mean 'free' as in 'free beer'
Or nah