Message from @Samaritan™

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2019-11-10 03:56:14 UTC  

Personally i agree, calls to violence mean nothing without actors. i think you should be able to charge someone with a call to violence if someone commits' violence in response to that call, but nothing else

2019-11-10 03:56:16 UTC  

@Ethaneth People don't hold ambassadors in high regard. Only elites do. And that is because elites think they are special, too.

2019-11-10 03:56:24 UTC  

and if you cannot tell the difference, it becomes a caveat to free speech

2019-11-10 03:56:45 UTC  

No, that's absolutely incorrect, ambassadors are in high regard at every level.

2019-11-10 03:56:53 UTC  

what if people commit violence

2019-11-10 03:56:54 UTC  

Its the only game in his wishlist too wtf

2019-11-10 03:56:58 UTC  

but its a misinterpretation

2019-11-10 03:56:59 UTC  

what then

2019-11-10 03:57:07 UTC  

you cant hold someone accountable for other peoples actions

2019-11-10 03:57:12 UTC  

action is not the same as speech even if the speech is a cALL to action

2019-11-10 03:57:17 UTC  

@Shai'tan No. You hold people responsible for what they do. If they preach violence... well... then you establish whether or not they have done so widely and if there is an actual problem. But fucking hell... every exception punches a massive hole into FREE SPEECH.

2019-11-10 03:57:28 UTC  

people either have individual faculty.... or they DO NOT

2019-11-10 03:57:41 UTC  

if people DO NOT, speech CANNOT be free

2019-11-10 03:57:45 UTC  

period

2019-11-10 03:58:03 UTC  

Even a call to action is still just a bunch of fucking words.

2019-11-10 03:58:12 UTC  

exactly

2019-11-10 03:58:13 UTC  

The people who act are the criminals.

2019-11-10 03:58:17 UTC  

exactly

2019-11-10 03:58:19 UTC  

Ma you think free speech is only speech or expression also

2019-11-10 03:58:22 UTC  

?

2019-11-10 03:58:30 UTC  

it's an expression

2019-11-10 03:58:40 UTC  

freedom of expression

2019-11-10 03:58:49 UTC  

Writing for example

2019-11-10 03:58:52 UTC  

Does that count

2019-11-10 03:58:53 UTC  

and that does NOT mean 'free' as in 'free beer'

2019-11-10 03:58:53 UTC  

Or nah

2019-11-10 03:59:11 UTC  

writing on paper that you own

2019-11-10 03:59:16 UTC  

Drawings.

2019-11-10 03:59:22 UTC  

That's where I'm going lol

2019-11-10 03:59:27 UTC  

I'm just leading into it

2019-11-10 03:59:28 UTC  

Speech is vibrations which is energy, to ban hateful speech is to ban certain vibrations which is energy. Energy is good.

2019-11-10 03:59:36 UTC  

"Your rights END the moment that YOUR rights impede the rights of another"

2019-11-10 03:59:46 UTC  

Lewd and immoral drawings? Well, fuck it. Who the fuck are hurt?

2019-11-10 04:00:08 UTC  

that rule covers the social media 'writings' because you don'tt own their 'bulletin board'

2019-11-10 04:00:33 UTC  

you don't have the right to put your sign in my yard without my permission

2019-11-10 04:00:33 UTC  

This eventually crosses over into Sargon and Uzalus debate: if two consenting adults have incest should that be illegal

2019-11-10 04:00:51 UTC  

incest is illegal?

2019-11-10 04:01:02 UTC  

Up to 40 years in prison in the US

2019-11-10 04:01:11 UTC  

incest isnt illegal in all cuntries

2019-11-10 04:01:12 UTC  

federal law?