Message from @ManAnimal

Discord ID: 642946185102884895


2019-11-10 04:32:22 UTC  

Its better to just pick people from those already exhibiting the right behaviour then training somebody who has no skill because if we're being real here you have to fucking work at any skill to really develop it and those people fucking won't do that if they don't already show the initiative

2019-11-10 04:32:25 UTC  

but you get my point, it's not a lot of catchup when he already has a large baseline

2019-11-10 04:33:05 UTC  

true. but there are different types of initiative

2019-11-10 04:33:09 UTC  

most of it is confidence building in the new role, fix it with additional training

2019-11-10 04:33:19 UTC  

not so sure about that

2019-11-10 04:33:41 UTC  

some people lack confidence, yes but also some people aren't suited for that particular task

2019-11-10 04:33:52 UTC  

confidence from competence

2019-11-10 04:33:55 UTC  

Its way broader then that

2019-11-10 04:33:56 UTC  

is my meaning

2019-11-10 04:33:59 UTC  

it's as much about matching the tool with the task as anything elsle

2019-11-10 04:34:25 UTC  

arrogance is different

2019-11-10 04:34:28 UTC  

i do think "train the person who has been doing the job to lead" is better than "bring in someone else trained to lead"

2019-11-10 04:35:27 UTC  

definately true

2019-11-10 04:35:42 UTC  

and find someone who doesn't WISH to lead

2019-11-10 04:35:57 UTC  

but recongizes the importance of leadership

2019-11-10 04:36:02 UTC  

and is good at it

2019-11-10 04:37:01 UTC  

Funny how the motto, "I'm in charge... until I die or someone better comes along to replace me" comes to mind

2019-11-10 04:38:07 UTC  

mmm

2019-11-10 04:38:13 UTC  

People in charge will not promote people they consider threats to their position

2019-11-10 04:38:19 UTC  

Often

2019-11-10 04:38:35 UTC  

if they won't , these are bad leaders

2019-11-10 04:38:40 UTC  

competition and not doing right by your community...

2019-11-10 04:38:59 UTC  

hence why I said, "Someone that doesn't want to lead but rather wants the best leader"

2019-11-10 04:39:17 UTC  

In a perfect world yeah

2019-11-10 04:39:27 UTC  

if the best is him, he'll take point

2019-11-10 04:39:38 UTC  

but he doesn't HAVE to take point

2019-11-10 04:39:42 UTC  

It's partly why the elite class would rather import low class workers rather than empower their own people to encourage them to breed, it invites too much competition

2019-11-10 04:39:52 UTC  

leaders are best chosen by those being led

2019-11-10 04:40:00 UTC  

People who are looked to, to lead vs people who take charge and lead

2019-11-10 04:40:15 UTC  

yep

2019-11-10 04:40:20 UTC  

Also not always because not everyone wants the leader that will make them work harder for example

2019-11-10 04:40:29 UTC  

Longer hours, fuck that

2019-11-10 04:40:54 UTC  

well, that's when you end up having union reps

2019-11-10 04:40:59 UTC  

rather than leaders

2019-11-10 04:41:20 UTC  

**Shudders**

2019-11-10 04:42:21 UTC  

it's hard these days because i think to how many of those standards were the function of boys generally being raised to beleif certain behaviour was noble while other behaviour was cowardly

2019-11-10 04:42:57 UTC  

Its a pretty big free for all nowadays behaviour wise

2019-11-10 04:43:04 UTC  

when to challenge the leader and when to punch someone who challenged the leader at the wrong moment

2019-11-10 04:43:27 UTC  

realpolitik of the workplace

2019-11-10 04:43:33 UTC  

It says a lot about leaders, policy makers, etc, to actively repress their population in order to secure their position. See similar in school, this sociopathic behavior...

2019-11-10 04:44:10 UTC  

The solution to this in the free market is to just go to another company and let them take advantage of your talents