Message from @ShimShamWhamBam
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Ladies and Gentlemen, this is history in the making. A one punch knockout here at the Athenian Death Match
Marushia is winner by default
lol
@Marushia Dark let me cum on your titties
Well by law the father at birth signed for the custody of the child saying it is theirs, until then, legally speaking the mother is the sole guardian.
Imagine you were a man and your wife was pregnant, would you care if she got an abortion when you didn't want her to? @Marushia Dark
@ShimShamWhamBam I think the Ferengi have it right
@Win Roe caring doesn't give you rights
Ok.
Fetuses don’t have rights.
So if I go next door, and punch my 8 month pregnant neighbor in the stomach until she miscarries.
Should I be up for assault and murder?
Or just assault?
What kind of world do you want to live in?
I don't care if you care
Roe, maybe before you ask me that, you should read and find out what my actual position is
Mandatory abortions 2016
@Scale_e the mother has rights.
@Marushia Dark I will but right now chat is moving faster than your slow ass brain
Assault and murder
Or just assault
Anyone born after that did not make the cut
Your ability to argue is clearly weak
Simple question.
@Scale_e both
What am I murdering?
If there is no known father or the father refuses to claim the child the mother retains full guardianship unless it is revoked by the state, at which point the child goes to the reliticlosest relative, or if there is no known relative becomes a ward of the state
The mother didn't consent. She's the one with that power
the baby at 8months could have lived outside the womb, so murder
I am willing to guess that @Win Roe has many irrational ideas pinballing around in that brain
Personally, I refer to myself as "pro-life, but not anti-abortion," or as Dave Rubin puts it: "begrudgingly pro-choice." Meaning I believe in prevention and alternatives with abortion being plan Z and I think if it must be done, the sooner the better, with various reasons why sentience, pain, and viability are reasonable philosophical and scientific cut-offs.
Ok.
7 months.
6 months.
7 months too they can survive
5 months.
Anything pre-sentience I don't see as immoral cuz I'm not an Evangelical or a Catholic
I don't see a difference between pre sentience and pre memory
Avoid having someone spaff in your muff might be a good step
so 3 years and younger is fine
@Scale_e I don't care how many months. The person who has to carry the child should be the one to choose. Noone should be allowed to make that choice for them. I don't have to like their choice and we can agree on that, but rights are more important than my feelings.
@Marushia Dark when is the definitive absolute point at which a human becomes sentient
Sentience refers to its ability to be aware of itself as an entity
Pop em all on the chopping block it's all the same
scientists say that life begins at conception
^
so there is that