@Jack of Trades I’m hiring the hitman, I’m paying for his services. It’s between me and the hitman.
I don’t see why anyone else has any say in the process.

@Al Capwned he can't he's a BITCH

@Jack of Trades Are you fucking serious?

@Scale_e I'm hooking up someone to your kidney

@Jack of Trades The argument has been done to death.

@Scale_e and its the only one that's correct

My contribution to the abortion debate if anyone cares:

https://www.darknessfiles.com/single-post/2017/11/19/On-the-Issues-Abortion-1

So the father doesn't care about the life OF HIS HEIR isn't important until their actually born

Fetuses don't have rights

Really?

If you disconnect yourself from the guy, you aren’t to be prosecuted. The person who hooked you up is.

Merlin is staggering it appears he's seeing the stars already

Roe, do men care about the lives of sperm when they cum?

It’s a shit thought experiment that has been debunked a billion times.

@Win Roe oh I'm sure he cares, but the only person who can make the choice to continue supporting the child is the mother

Anything else is basically slavery

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is history in the making. A one punch knockout here at the Athenian Death Match

Marushia is winner by default

lol

@Marushia Dark let me cum on your titties

Well by law the father at birth signed for the custody of the child saying it is theirs, until then, legally speaking the mother is the sole guardian.

Imagine you were a man and your wife was pregnant, would you care if she got an abortion when you didn't want her to? @Marushia Dark

@ShimShamWhamBam I think the Ferengi have it right

@Win Roe caring doesn't give you rights

Ok.
Fetuses don’t have rights.

So if I go next door, and punch my 8 month pregnant neighbor in the stomach until she miscarries.
Should I be up for assault and murder?
Or just assault?

What kind of world do you want to live in?

I don't care if you care

Roe, maybe before you ask me that, you should read and find out what my actual position is

Mandatory abortions 2016

@Scale_e the mother has rights.

@Marushia Dark I will but right now chat is moving faster than your slow ass brain

Assault and murder
Or just assault

Anyone born after that did not make the cut

Your ability to argue is clearly weak

Simple question.

@Scale_e both

What am I murdering?

If there is no known father or the father refuses to claim the child the mother retains full guardianship unless it is revoked by the state, at which point the child goes to the reliticlosest relative, or if there is no known relative becomes a ward of the state

The mother didn't consent. She's the one with that power

the baby at 8months could have lived outside the womb, so murder

I am willing to guess that @Win Roe has many irrational ideas pinballing around in that brain

Personally, I refer to myself as "pro-life, but not anti-abortion," or as Dave Rubin puts it: "begrudgingly pro-choice." Meaning I believe in prevention and alternatives with abortion being plan Z and I think if it must be done, the sooner the better, with various reasons why sentience, pain, and viability are reasonable philosophical and scientific cut-offs.