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imagine if the west seceded
I'd honestly put a petition to be annexed to the States.
as long as we stay the hell away from California
It's not like Western Canada would move any closer to Commiefornia. Plus they'd just become more Republican states.
Well at least Alberta and Saskatchewan would probably be Republican states
honestly separation of western canada seems like the best solution. ontario is only going to grow in power as more and more immigrants are crammed cheek-to-jowl in the GTA. the phenomenon of western canada being mere economic vassals to ontario is only going to intensify.
whether they'd be better off joining the US is an open question, but they have nothing to lose by leaving canada.
I can't blame west for wanting to leave (as someone from Ont.)
especially since Quebecs new speratist movement seems to be a troll movement to provoke discontent in the West, central and east. To carve up canada into individual sections b.c they havent been appeased enough.
I truly hope we can pull together as a country as we will be weaker and a lesser realization of our Canadian founding by shrinking.
It would probably help if we didnt have a PM that attempted to pit east vs. central vs. west
But I also hope this ends in a more republican view point for each state to have more control over their own destiny rather than the shitty top down control of the current model.
- Eliminate interprovincial trade restrictions
- Eliminate equalization payments
- Elimination of bilingualism for holding office/govt job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2g49GB7Ri0 cant stop laughing
actual footage from Justin's Foreign Affairs office
Commenters note this guy referenced in Mad Max's tweet is in Victoria, BC.
https://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1184158508213821440
Mad Max is the best thing to come out of Quebec
Hey guys. I'm an immigrant who lives in Quebec. I was thinking about the divide between anglophones and francophones in the country. Has there ever been some kind of attempt for the people of both sides to sit down and talk without the retarded politicians? It seems to me like they are the ones causing the divide. I find that francophones and anglophones have more in common than different
franco are quite similar to anglos. But most people outside of quebec do not think about quebec unless it comes to the 2nd langauge
to be honest prior to the quebec appeasement most of anglo canada was perfectly fine with quebec
but francos were not happy b.c they felt they were being 'replaced'
its the problem of a pendulum: its was too far to the anglos, now it is too far to the francos
I think the best solution would likely be more republicanism (provincial control over their own matters)
All provinces are basically in for more republicanism until they cant control other provinces
I'm of the mind remove equalization payments (or at very least scale back drastically) and improve provincial sovereignty
Canada is a confederation it’s already supposed to be provinces making more of their own decisions
my point exactly, we have moved towards appeasement for Quebec (in that to hold political office you generally need bilingualism especially in federal, considering that we have translators)
Like the bloc argument is somewhat sympathetic to me, let quebec do as they want. But then they follow that up with, quebec will also get to control what other provinces do and pay us money (equalization payments)
Max is the only politician I’ve seen say “that’s a provincial government jurisdiction” re climate, education etc...
thats the problem these morons are trying to increase centralization while blocking creative destruction (anyone else read why nations fail yet?)
Someone explain to me why Canada doesn't just separate into anglo and frenchie states and name them East and West Canada? Or just break up by province? There are forces that seem to want it.
I mean Quebec being it’s own country could solve the language divide, but i’m not sure other Canadian provinces and even the anglos in Quebec could agree with it
~~And yes i’m not 100% informed on North American/Canadian politics, so i’m not so sure about any solutions~~
There are a few main issues, with a true Quebec separation for the rest of Canada. The first is the loss of control of the Saint Lawrence, one of the major waterways into the more central portions of Canada. Second is that much of northern Quebec houses power generation facilities like solar farms, hydroelectric dams, and wind turbine fields, almost all of which were payed for and installed by the Canadian government, in order to separate they would be required to hand over a sizable chunk of land to Canada that is supposed to be Quebec, or they would have to pay several times their annual GDP to buy the infrastructure and generating facilities outright. The last issue is that aside from perhaps New Brunswick, most of the maritime provinces are Anglo and would not want to separate from Canada. But this would mean that the 3 or 4 maritime provinces that wanted to remain in Canada would have no land connection to the main body of the country and would have to travel through Quebec or the US in order to get to the capital/90% of the rest of the countries land mass.
@Goddess Tyche The only part of Canada that wants has ever seriously had a secessionist movement is Quebec and most Quebecers don't want to leave Canada. We have already had two referendums on that topic and both times Quebec voted against leaving, its just a loud minority. And it was always a pipe dream anyways because Quebec relies on the rest of Canada.
Quebec needs to get over itself
lol they're french what do you expect
So, annex Canada when?
Please do, we need an actual constitution. our charter of rights and freedoms is fundamentally broken and like 40 years old at best.
No you don't
You have common law
Which is better than a written constitution
Except the worst excesses of our system is cause by the lack of hard constraints against government power. The common law wont save you once enough warped precedent is introduced into the system.
Its something I really disagree with Sargon on. you need something akin to a constitution. A hard back stop that cannot be overcome without the overwhelming will of the people. otherwise a few activists who call themselves judges can irreparably harm your legal system given enough time. Canada is a perfect roadmap to how the British system can fail given enough people who are willing to throw aside the rule of law for personal or political gain.