I know in Africa (having seen it) denying god in some parts or those whose faith was found wanting were executed 🤷

If your boogeyman reaches down from the skies and says "storin my dude, i'm real" I'll convert, till then it doesn't exist

And in china millions died who refused to relinquish their faith by state mandate

well hearing its blunted is a detail that shifts my concerns a bit, but still

Because if he does exist then you have to justify every ail this world suffers

I suppose I should amend my statement to firearms

Most people carry knives of a sort

No I dont

have you guys read a letter concerning toleration?

What did children deserve to get cancer for example, since its either 1) gods plan, or 2) he has the ability to stop such ailments and refuses, or 3) he doesn't have the power to do so, which leads to 4) is he really real or even all knowing all doing 🤔

If the entire point of life is to put you through the ringer for a higher purpose that is the point of ails

Different people are tested differently

Not a truth most christians are willing to admit

The onus is on you to justify these thigns by saying hes real, I am saying hes not real and people get sick and there is nothing we can do outside of modern medicine

erm, did you bother to even ask if he's a believer?

Nope, but that appeared to be the premise

cuz if not you're asking someone to justify shit that isn't relevant to them

Well the point would still be relevant

Nnnnnnot really

Yes really

that'd be like asking me to justify god and shit

or communism

Bottom line gods aren't real, if you want to leave the door open thats fine, but if you say "i believe" or "he believes" whatever, then you and/or they have to justify that belief, and its very easy for me to turn around and say those points as I just did

Which put any believer in a tricky position and either proves they aren't a real supporter or they are insane

or the practices of factory farming of animal livestock

http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/locke1689b.pdf

If you argue point 1 gods plan- that is a bad argument, I throat chop your neighbour, that gods plan? and tht makes it a terrible argument, point 2 means your god is likely evil and watching suffering going on and chooses to do nothing, point 3 he's not powerful and cant do anything/everything, 4 he doesn't exist and therefore unable to stop any harm.

The point of evil and ails are trials and free will

You really want to argue free will and trials <:pepe:312704217028493312>

If you chose to throat chop someone out of nowhere god knew it would happen and you will be judged for it

You asked and I am answering

The idea behind the christian faith is to be born and try to bear your trials and tribulations in a christlike fashion for a higher purpose

Not to seek comfort

Well tahts ridiculous- that implies god will "catch up with me" in due time. what about 2,3,4

6 year old child has stage 4 cancer- can your god save them...

You being a non-believer I assume conflate happy with comfortable

I was raised a roman catholic dude, then I saw the light <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

Now I don't believe in any of that shite

I wouldnt prop up roman Catholicism as the apex of what it means to be Christian

However I find religious debate pointless really

I don't believe in god but those were not even difficult questions my dude. One of the characteristics ascribed to god is omniscience. Which is infinite knowledge. More than you more than me more than everyone who ever lived.

So when you take your dog to the vet for shots it doesn't know what a heartworm is of anything. It is not capable of knowing why it has to go to a strange place and have painful things happen to it. All it has is a faith in you and your care for it. So that times infinity is what people refer to as 'ineffable'