Message from @Jokerfaic

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2019-10-05 00:19:53 UTC  

So is their turban

2019-10-05 00:19:53 UTC  

its little better than saying someone else gets to bring something into the cab that you can't because they're more patriotic than you or some shit

2019-10-05 00:20:12 UTC  

If you are willing to concede your god might not be real or at the very least is not worth killing and/or dying over you may end up marginalised by your community <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-10-05 00:20:53 UTC  

I am not willing to posit the idea I may be wrong to people who are not willing to extend the same courtesy

2019-10-05 00:20:54 UTC  

I know in Africa (having seen it) denying god in some parts or those whose faith was found wanting were executed 🤷

2019-10-05 00:21:19 UTC  

If your boogeyman reaches down from the skies and says "storin my dude, i'm real" I'll convert, till then it doesn't exist

2019-10-05 00:21:21 UTC  

And in china millions died who refused to relinquish their faith by state mandate

2019-10-05 00:21:33 UTC  

well hearing its blunted is a detail that shifts my concerns a bit, but still

2019-10-05 00:21:48 UTC  

Because if he does exist then you have to justify every ail this world suffers

2019-10-05 00:21:56 UTC  

I suppose I should amend my statement to firearms

2019-10-05 00:22:06 UTC  

Most people carry knives of a sort

2019-10-05 00:22:30 UTC  

No I dont

2019-10-05 00:22:52 UTC  

have you guys read a letter concerning toleration?

2019-10-05 00:22:58 UTC  

What did children deserve to get cancer for example, since its either 1) gods plan, or 2) he has the ability to stop such ailments and refuses, or 3) he doesn't have the power to do so, which leads to 4) is he really real or even all knowing all doing 🤔

2019-10-05 00:23:06 UTC  

If the entire point of life is to put you through the ringer for a higher purpose that is the point of ails

2019-10-05 00:23:26 UTC  

Different people are tested differently

2019-10-05 00:23:36 UTC  

Not a truth most christians are willing to admit

2019-10-05 00:23:40 UTC  

The onus is on you to justify these thigns by saying hes real, I am saying hes not real and people get sick and there is nothing we can do outside of modern medicine

2019-10-05 00:24:08 UTC  

erm, did you bother to even ask if he's a believer?

2019-10-05 00:24:24 UTC  

Nope, but that appeared to be the premise

2019-10-05 00:24:30 UTC  

cuz if not you're asking someone to justify shit that isn't relevant to them

2019-10-05 00:24:45 UTC  

Well the point would still be relevant

2019-10-05 00:25:08 UTC  

Nnnnnnot really

2019-10-05 00:25:12 UTC  

Yes really

2019-10-05 00:25:50 UTC  

that'd be like asking me to justify god and shit

2019-10-05 00:26:20 UTC  

or communism

2019-10-05 00:26:23 UTC  

Bottom line gods aren't real, if you want to leave the door open thats fine, but if you say "i believe" or "he believes" whatever, then you and/or they have to justify that belief, and its very easy for me to turn around and say those points as I just did

2019-10-05 00:26:39 UTC  

Which put any believer in a tricky position and either proves they aren't a real supporter or they are insane

2019-10-05 00:26:40 UTC  

or the practices of factory farming of animal livestock

2019-10-05 00:29:24 UTC  

If you argue point 1 gods plan- that is a bad argument, I throat chop your neighbour, that gods plan? and tht makes it a terrible argument, point 2 means your god is likely evil and watching suffering going on and chooses to do nothing, point 3 he's not powerful and cant do anything/everything, 4 he doesn't exist and therefore unable to stop any harm.

2019-10-05 00:29:46 UTC  

The point of evil and ails are trials and free will

2019-10-05 00:30:04 UTC  

You really want to argue free will and trials <:pepe:312704217028493312>

2019-10-05 00:30:10 UTC  

If you chose to throat chop someone out of nowhere god knew it would happen and you will be judged for it

2019-10-05 00:30:18 UTC  

You asked and I am answering

2019-10-05 00:30:48 UTC  

The idea behind the christian faith is to be born and try to bear your trials and tribulations in a christlike fashion for a higher purpose

2019-10-05 00:30:53 UTC  

Not to seek comfort

2019-10-05 00:30:58 UTC  

Well tahts ridiculous- that implies god will "catch up with me" in due time. what about 2,3,4

2019-10-05 00:31:28 UTC  

6 year old child has stage 4 cancer- can your god save them...

2019-10-05 00:31:28 UTC  

You being a non-believer I assume conflate happy with comfortable

2019-10-05 00:31:41 UTC  

I was raised a roman catholic dude, then I saw the light <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>