Message from @Jokerfaic
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So is their turban
its little better than saying someone else gets to bring something into the cab that you can't because they're more patriotic than you or some shit
If you are willing to concede your god might not be real or at the very least is not worth killing and/or dying over you may end up marginalised by your community <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
I am not willing to posit the idea I may be wrong to people who are not willing to extend the same courtesy
I know in Africa (having seen it) denying god in some parts or those whose faith was found wanting were executed 🤷
If your boogeyman reaches down from the skies and says "storin my dude, i'm real" I'll convert, till then it doesn't exist
And in china millions died who refused to relinquish their faith by state mandate
well hearing its blunted is a detail that shifts my concerns a bit, but still
Because if he does exist then you have to justify every ail this world suffers
I suppose I should amend my statement to firearms
Most people carry knives of a sort
No I dont
have you guys read a letter concerning toleration?
What did children deserve to get cancer for example, since its either 1) gods plan, or 2) he has the ability to stop such ailments and refuses, or 3) he doesn't have the power to do so, which leads to 4) is he really real or even all knowing all doing 🤔
If the entire point of life is to put you through the ringer for a higher purpose that is the point of ails
Different people are tested differently
Not a truth most christians are willing to admit
The onus is on you to justify these thigns by saying hes real, I am saying hes not real and people get sick and there is nothing we can do outside of modern medicine
erm, did you bother to even ask if he's a believer?
Nope, but that appeared to be the premise
Well the point would still be relevant
Nnnnnnot really
Yes really
that'd be like asking me to justify god and shit
or communism
Bottom line gods aren't real, if you want to leave the door open thats fine, but if you say "i believe" or "he believes" whatever, then you and/or they have to justify that belief, and its very easy for me to turn around and say those points as I just did
Which put any believer in a tricky position and either proves they aren't a real supporter or they are insane
or the practices of factory farming of animal livestock
If you argue point 1 gods plan- that is a bad argument, I throat chop your neighbour, that gods plan? and tht makes it a terrible argument, point 2 means your god is likely evil and watching suffering going on and chooses to do nothing, point 3 he's not powerful and cant do anything/everything, 4 he doesn't exist and therefore unable to stop any harm.
The point of evil and ails are trials and free will
You really want to argue free will and trials <:pepe:312704217028493312>
If you chose to throat chop someone out of nowhere god knew it would happen and you will be judged for it
You asked and I am answering
The idea behind the christian faith is to be born and try to bear your trials and tribulations in a christlike fashion for a higher purpose
Not to seek comfort
Well tahts ridiculous- that implies god will "catch up with me" in due time. what about 2,3,4
6 year old child has stage 4 cancer- can your god save them...
You being a non-believer I assume conflate happy with comfortable
I was raised a roman catholic dude, then I saw the light <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>