ALl he needs to do is get the extension and get the election

labour wont vote for anyone but JC

Then there is the other parties

So I doubt a VONC can work

If he forces the oppositions hands with chicanery, he's likely to lose his prime ministership AND brexit will be cancelled resetting the clock to 0 again, and we would be unlikely to get either a brexit pm to replace him, and certainly not someone with the election power of boris

SO while it's tempting for Boris to do something madladdish, it's imprudent

they would risk a GE by calling a VONC unless they can get actual support behind someone

Which they wont do

Doesn't matter, Joshu, if the sole purpose of the GNU is to cancel brexit/force an extension, then they'll do it

SInce they were going to allow a GE after anyway

Will will change my stance if a GNU actually gets labour

Until then

the evidence opposes you

So therefore i will not change my mind

It's a prediction on what would happen if Boris tried to force through a no deal in the face of the Benn act, Joshu, it's not a prediction of what's going to happen now

I think no deal will be come to, and he will go for an extension as demanded

We shall have to see

come the 19th

If he thinks, like you, he is going to win the next election in the current state, then there would be no value in him risking it with bombastic leave with no deal on the 31st action

Only reason he would force it through is if he though the election result was in question

Election maps change after an extension

it would make a TPB alliance almost nessisary

Also

Labour have also said they will demand a 2nd ref before a GE

So

I'd not heard that

Yup

today

Lib Dems and SNP only want an extension

Is that the one with a remain option and a "credible" leave option

Yes

great

Remain or remain with extra steps

Customs union the whole shebang

Lib Dem + SNP votes would be enough for an election

Not through FTPA

True

and ammendments to the FTPA or a bill are open to ammendments to force a 2nd ref

by labour

the news seems to disagree with you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49998384