Message from @Eccles

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2019-10-10 18:46:14 UTC  

Of course it's plausible. It's also electoral suicide for Labour/Lib Dems, but it does fuck brexit up

2019-10-10 18:46:17 UTC  

Every other party cant agree on who they want

2019-10-10 18:46:23 UTC  

and they dont want to compromise

2019-10-10 18:46:35 UTC  

However lots of things are plausible

2019-10-10 18:46:39 UTC  

doesnt mean its probable

2019-10-10 18:47:04 UTC  

Doesn't matter

2019-10-10 18:47:15 UTC  

It would be so narrow that it doesn't matter who leads it

2019-10-10 18:47:20 UTC  

@Joshu if you pray to **BREXIT** long enough unicorns become real

2019-10-10 18:47:29 UTC  

🙏🏿

2019-10-10 18:47:42 UTC  

If extension is vetoed, then won't tories be on top in the polls? They'd get in with a majority

2019-10-10 18:47:57 UTC  

Beause we'd be on track to leave on the 31st still

2019-10-10 18:48:10 UTC  

But that's the point

2019-10-10 18:48:26 UTC  

Boris doesn't need to get us out by oct 31st on chicanery and things of dubious legal status

2019-10-10 18:48:27 UTC  

A GNU

2019-10-10 18:48:31 UTC  

need the tory rebels

2019-10-10 18:48:35 UTC  

JC doesnt get that for one

2019-10-10 18:48:36 UTC  

ALl he needs to do is get the extension and get the election

2019-10-10 18:48:41 UTC  

labour wont vote for anyone but JC

2019-10-10 18:48:52 UTC  

Then there is the other parties

2019-10-10 18:49:28 UTC  

So I doubt a VONC can work

2019-10-10 18:49:34 UTC  

If he forces the oppositions hands with chicanery, he's likely to lose his prime ministership AND brexit will be cancelled resetting the clock to 0 again, and we would be unlikely to get either a brexit pm to replace him, and certainly not someone with the election power of boris

2019-10-10 18:50:11 UTC  

SO while it's tempting for Boris to do something madladdish, it's imprudent

2019-10-10 18:50:18 UTC  

they would risk a GE by calling a VONC unless they can get actual support behind someone

2019-10-10 18:50:21 UTC  

Which they wont do

2019-10-10 18:50:51 UTC  

Doesn't matter, Joshu, if the sole purpose of the GNU is to cancel brexit/force an extension, then they'll do it

2019-10-10 18:50:56 UTC  

SInce they were going to allow a GE after anyway

2019-10-10 18:51:03 UTC  

Will will change my stance if a GNU actually gets labour

2019-10-10 18:51:07 UTC  

Until then

2019-10-10 18:51:17 UTC  

the evidence opposes you

2019-10-10 18:51:34 UTC  

So therefore i will not change my mind

2019-10-10 18:52:03 UTC  

It's a prediction on what would happen if Boris tried to force through a no deal in the face of the Benn act, Joshu, it's not a prediction of what's going to happen now

2019-10-10 18:52:13 UTC  

I think no deal will be come to, and he will go for an extension as demanded

2019-10-10 18:53:06 UTC  

We shall have to see

2019-10-10 18:53:09 UTC  

come the 19th

2019-10-10 18:54:13 UTC  

If he thinks, like you, he is going to win the next election in the current state, then there would be no value in him risking it with bombastic leave with no deal on the 31st action

2019-10-10 18:54:29 UTC  

Only reason he would force it through is if he though the election result was in question

2019-10-10 18:55:41 UTC  

Election maps change after an extension

2019-10-10 18:55:48 UTC  

it would make a TPB alliance almost nessisary

2019-10-10 18:55:54 UTC  

Also

2019-10-10 18:56:05 UTC  

Labour have also said they will demand a 2nd ref before a GE

2019-10-10 18:56:07 UTC  

So