Message from @Eccles

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2019-10-11 17:24:22 UTC  

Absurdly high stakes gamble

2019-10-11 17:24:30 UTC  

How?

2019-10-11 17:24:40 UTC  

The Conservatives would win any election

2019-10-11 17:24:52 UTC  

Post second referendum that is not a guarantee

2019-10-11 17:24:59 UTC  

And their members are strongly pro-Brexit so there is no chance of a U-turn in policy

2019-10-11 17:25:12 UTC  

Members yes, voters no

2019-10-11 17:25:22 UTC  

Most of their voters are

2019-10-11 17:25:34 UTC  

Something like 60%

2019-10-11 17:26:24 UTC  

Fundamentally the Conservatives would not support Remain because there members would rebel and a significant amount of their voters would too and almost every poll has predicated a Conservative Victory in any election

2019-10-11 17:26:31 UTC  

Basically, Brexit is coming

2019-10-11 17:26:34 UTC  

Eventually

2019-10-11 17:27:08 UTC  

I think a second referendum will change the GE table a fair chunk, and not in their favour

2019-10-11 17:27:28 UTC  

How would it?

2019-10-11 17:27:42 UTC  

No Brexiteers would vote for a Remain party

2019-10-11 17:27:47 UTC  

Resurgent Brexit Party and a loss of Tory moderates

2019-10-11 17:28:03 UTC  

I don't think the Tory Moderates would leave

2019-10-11 17:28:12 UTC  

I do, if a second referendum came up remain

2019-10-11 17:28:21 UTC  

It would be clear to everyone that the referendum would be boycotted by Brexiteers

2019-10-11 17:28:31 UTC  

When turnout is low by a few million it will confirm it

2019-10-11 17:29:12 UTC  

But all of this relies on Labour actually being able to take over which is seeming unlikely

2019-10-11 17:29:29 UTC  

Doesn't really matter who the opposition are

2019-10-11 17:30:11 UTC  

Reminder lads

2019-10-11 17:30:16 UTC  

America aint our allies

2019-10-11 17:30:40 UTC  

They should be

2019-10-11 17:30:47 UTC  

The US is the best

2019-10-11 18:00:15 UTC  

Come on, man. Are you going to let a few deaths get in the way of a good trade deal?

2019-10-11 18:23:50 UTC  

https://i.imgur.com/GXjJ2hA.png Graph to 28 day average (Each point for a party is the average of all of the polls produced in the last 28 days).
https://i.imgur.com/r9jTg7x.png Here is the scatterplot, each coloured dot represents a party in a single poll result.
The 28-day polling averages for today (11 Oct 2019) are: CON: 33%, LAB: 23%, LIB: 20%, BXP: 12%, GRN: 5%, NAT: 5%, UKI: 0%, TIG: 0%
The graph on Wikipedia is a few weeks old and has both on a single graph, but I CBA figuring out how to do that.

2019-10-11 18:41:56 UTC  

28 day averages aren't much help at this point - situation is too volatile

2019-10-11 18:56:48 UTC  

in the scrollback - yes to abbot as leader, even more unelectable

2019-10-11 19:09:34 UTC  

Do the quiz lads

2019-10-11 19:14:07 UTC  

>Corbyn will go if he loses election
>The only problem is his replacement will probably be even worse
One nightmare scenario for me is ||Tony B.liar comes back!||

2019-10-11 19:23:49 UTC  

nah I don't think he'd dare

2019-10-11 19:24:04 UTC  

and Blair would never get past the momentum crew anyway

2019-10-11 19:36:07 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 I got Conservative

2019-10-11 19:39:17 UTC  

I got UKIP

2019-10-11 19:52:14 UTC  

I also got tory, I however did love the typical guardian framing

2019-10-11 19:52:45 UTC  

More agreeable language used for the extreme remain options

2019-10-11 19:52:52 UTC  

than flat leave options