>Shit Italian technology and morale
>This is all of Fascism

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The reason they got massively overambitious was because of Facism

Any sensible ideology wouldve just left everyone else alone

well i don't know that they were massively overambitious

>inb4 someone unironically says that Mussolini made the trains run on time

they seemed to join the war on the side of the axis for opportunistic reasons

they joined when france was already about to fall

It is physically impossible for an italian to run anything on time

i don't know if the italian administration was aware that germany was going to declare war on the ussr

Even the Italians agree @Dubdogelmo

Italians peaked in 117

And have declined ever since

when they joined

but i mean, if we're to look at related fascist movements, like that of the buf, they didn't place the emphasis on war that the italians did

Mosley, generally was anti-war.

so if we do consider this to be an issue with fascism i am not sure that it is something that must necessarily be a part of it

Virgin Hitler and Chad Mussolini

but i mean even then i'm skeptical of the idea that their defeat was a byproduct of being too ambitious

Franco was pro war, but was stopped by a fammine

Yeah Mosley didnt want to go to war with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy <:thunk:462282216467333140>

Nor any of Europe, nor expand the Empire..

Preservation was his aim

Well its not as if the British needed any more territory

i'm critical of aspects of fascism i just don't think the way in which it fell is too indicative of an inherent flaw in the ideology

especially if we're to look more broadly at other fascist movements that didn't fetishize war

Correct, they needed to hold onto it @Dubdogelmo

As the UK needs to do.

I mean. The late 19th and 20th centuries taught that in a modern economy direct colonial imperialism doesn't turn a profit

Right now the UK is following a similar path as the Empire did

Increased autonomy for the lands

nought wrong with that

Until they eventually leave

Of course there is lmao

We saw with the french/British empires, imperial Japan, and even the Soviet union

The Dominion system is probably what kept the Empire together for so long

The mother country always net lost from it's directly controlled forigen teritories.

Stop stuff like the US revolution from happening again and getting them to pay for their own defence

Oh also Italy. But Italy barely counts

lul the Italian 'empire'

I think it was just Libya and Ethiopia