Message from @Dubdogelmo
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Virgin Hitler and Chad Mussolini
but i mean even then i'm skeptical of the idea that their defeat was a byproduct of being too ambitious
Franco was pro war, but was stopped by a fammine
Yeah Mosley didnt want to go to war with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy <:thunk:462282216467333140>
Nor any of Europe, nor expand the Empire..
Preservation was his aim
Well its not as if the British needed any more territory
i'm critical of aspects of fascism i just don't think the way in which it fell is too indicative of an inherent flaw in the ideology
especially if we're to look more broadly at other fascist movements that didn't fetishize war
Correct, they needed to hold onto it @Dubdogelmo
As the UK needs to do.
I mean. The late 19th and 20th centuries taught that in a modern economy direct colonial imperialism doesn't turn a profit
Right now the UK is following a similar path as the Empire did
Increased autonomy for the lands
nought wrong with that
Until they eventually leave
Of course there is lmao
We saw with the french/British empires, imperial Japan, and even the Soviet union
The Dominion system is probably what kept the Empire together for so long
The mother country always net lost from it's directly controlled forigen teritories.
Stop stuff like the US revolution from happening again and getting them to pay for their own defence
Oh also Italy. But Italy barely counts
lul the Italian 'empire'
I think it was just Libya and Ethiopia
To be fair, lybia and eritria were both profitable and well integrated
Ethiopia and Somalia less so XD
And the Albanian occupation cost money ofc
I love how the British invaded Ethiopia and didnt bother to colonise it
But in general the Italian empire project was stupid
They were nowhere near good enough to actually make anything of it
I mean, the only colonies profitable to the UK were the dominions, girbraltar, Egypt (cause Suez) and some parts of india
Most of the empire esp in Africa was map painting at the cost of actual prosperity
But muh $45 trillion fron India
More than that was spent on infrastructure alone
and yeah the Africa colonising was mostly for Dick measuring and anti-slavery
as well as diamond mines for Companies like Rhodes
Only a few costal/very rich areas of India were worth the costs
plus indians smell bad and we were likke.... naaahhhh
Too bad diamonds are intrinsically worthless and the practice of diamonds for proposal jewelery popped off in the 50s
but muh Koh-ri-noor