Message from @Dubdogelmo

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2019-10-16 14:08:27 UTC  

longer than Fascism

2019-10-16 14:08:28 UTC  

lmao

2019-10-16 14:08:53 UTC  

fascism died because italy ended up on the wrong side of a losing war

2019-10-16 14:08:55 UTC  

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck I'll think you'll find that gay primitive Anarco-syndicalism is the best system actually

2019-10-16 14:09:06 UTC  

the same thing happened to liberalism before it overtook the earth

2019-10-16 14:09:18 UTC  

@killerqwerty GET OUT ME KAISERREICH GAME, YE GODDAMN SYNDIES

2019-10-16 14:09:21 UTC  

Facism is political little-man syndrome

2019-10-16 14:09:24 UTC  

i don't think italy's defeat in ww2 presents a compelling critique of the fascist system

2019-10-16 14:09:36 UTC  

I think it does

2019-10-16 14:09:45 UTC  

best system

2019-10-16 14:09:47 UTC  

why

2019-10-16 14:09:55 UTC  

>Shit Italian technology and morale
>This is all of Fascism

2019-10-16 14:09:56 UTC  

<:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>

2019-10-16 14:10:15 UTC  

The reason they got massively overambitious was because of Facism

2019-10-16 14:10:30 UTC  

Any sensible ideology wouldve just left everyone else alone

2019-10-16 14:10:36 UTC  

well i don't know that they were massively overambitious

2019-10-16 14:10:37 UTC  

>inb4 someone unironically says that Mussolini made the trains run on time

2019-10-16 14:10:45 UTC  

they seemed to join the war on the side of the axis for opportunistic reasons

2019-10-16 14:10:51 UTC  

they joined when france was already about to fall

2019-10-16 14:10:59 UTC  

It is physically impossible for an italian to run anything on time

2019-10-16 14:11:12 UTC  

i don't know if the italian administration was aware that germany was going to declare war on the ussr

2019-10-16 14:11:14 UTC  

Even the Italians agree @Dubdogelmo

2019-10-16 14:11:14 UTC  

Italians peaked in 117

2019-10-16 14:11:23 UTC  

And have declined ever since

2019-10-16 14:11:25 UTC  

when they joined

2019-10-16 14:11:56 UTC  

but i mean, if we're to look at related fascist movements, like that of the buf, they didn't place the emphasis on war that the italians did

2019-10-16 14:12:13 UTC  

Mosley, generally was anti-war.

2019-10-16 14:12:14 UTC  

so if we do consider this to be an issue with fascism i am not sure that it is something that must necessarily be a part of it

2019-10-16 14:12:34 UTC  

Virgin Hitler and Chad Mussolini

2019-10-16 14:12:44 UTC  

but i mean even then i'm skeptical of the idea that their defeat was a byproduct of being too ambitious

2019-10-16 14:12:55 UTC  

Franco was pro war, but was stopped by a fammine

2019-10-16 14:13:22 UTC  

Yeah Mosley didnt want to go to war with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy <:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-10-16 14:13:45 UTC  

Nor any of Europe, nor expand the Empire..

2019-10-16 14:13:54 UTC  

Preservation was his aim

2019-10-16 14:14:32 UTC  

Well its not as if the British needed any more territory

2019-10-16 14:14:34 UTC  

i'm critical of aspects of fascism i just don't think the way in which it fell is too indicative of an inherent flaw in the ideology

2019-10-16 14:14:55 UTC  

especially if we're to look more broadly at other fascist movements that didn't fetishize war

2019-10-16 14:15:07 UTC  

Correct, they needed to hold onto it @Dubdogelmo

2019-10-16 14:15:58 UTC  

As the UK needs to do.

2019-10-16 14:16:09 UTC  

I mean. The late 19th and 20th centuries taught that in a modern economy direct colonial imperialism doesn't turn a profit