Mosley, generally was anti-war.

so if we do consider this to be an issue with fascism i am not sure that it is something that must necessarily be a part of it

Virgin Hitler and Chad Mussolini

but i mean even then i'm skeptical of the idea that their defeat was a byproduct of being too ambitious

Franco was pro war, but was stopped by a fammine

Yeah Mosley didnt want to go to war with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy <:thunk:462282216467333140>

Nor any of Europe, nor expand the Empire..

Preservation was his aim

Well its not as if the British needed any more territory

i'm critical of aspects of fascism i just don't think the way in which it fell is too indicative of an inherent flaw in the ideology

especially if we're to look more broadly at other fascist movements that didn't fetishize war

Correct, they needed to hold onto it @Dubdogelmo

As the UK needs to do.

I mean. The late 19th and 20th centuries taught that in a modern economy direct colonial imperialism doesn't turn a profit

Right now the UK is following a similar path as the Empire did

Increased autonomy for the lands

nought wrong with that

Until they eventually leave

Of course there is lmao

We saw with the french/British empires, imperial Japan, and even the Soviet union

The Dominion system is probably what kept the Empire together for so long

The mother country always net lost from it's directly controlled forigen teritories.

Stop stuff like the US revolution from happening again and getting them to pay for their own defence

Oh also Italy. But Italy barely counts

lul the Italian 'empire'

I think it was just Libya and Ethiopia

To be fair, lybia and eritria were both profitable and well integrated

Ethiopia and Somalia less so XD

And the Albanian occupation cost money ofc

I love how the British invaded Ethiopia and didnt bother to colonise it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expedition_to_Abyssinia

But in general the Italian empire project was stupid

They were nowhere near good enough to actually make anything of it

I mean, the only colonies profitable to the UK were the dominions, girbraltar, Egypt (cause Suez) and some parts of india

Most of the empire esp in Africa was map painting at the cost of actual prosperity

But muh $45 trillion fron India

More than that was spent on infrastructure alone

and yeah the Africa colonising was mostly for Dick measuring and anti-slavery

as well as diamond mines for Companies like Rhodes

Only a few costal/very rich areas of India were worth the costs

plus indians smell bad and we were likke.... naaahhhh