Message from @Dubdogelmo
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Any sensible ideology wouldve just left everyone else alone
well i don't know that they were massively overambitious
>inb4 someone unironically says that Mussolini made the trains run on time
they seemed to join the war on the side of the axis for opportunistic reasons
they joined when france was already about to fall
It is physically impossible for an italian to run anything on time
i don't know if the italian administration was aware that germany was going to declare war on the ussr
Even the Italians agree @Dubdogelmo
Italians peaked in 117
And have declined ever since
when they joined
but i mean, if we're to look at related fascist movements, like that of the buf, they didn't place the emphasis on war that the italians did
Mosley, generally was anti-war.
so if we do consider this to be an issue with fascism i am not sure that it is something that must necessarily be a part of it
Virgin Hitler and Chad Mussolini
but i mean even then i'm skeptical of the idea that their defeat was a byproduct of being too ambitious
Franco was pro war, but was stopped by a fammine
Yeah Mosley didnt want to go to war with Nazi Germany and Facist Italy <:thunk:462282216467333140>
Nor any of Europe, nor expand the Empire..
Preservation was his aim
i'm critical of aspects of fascism i just don't think the way in which it fell is too indicative of an inherent flaw in the ideology
especially if we're to look more broadly at other fascist movements that didn't fetishize war
Correct, they needed to hold onto it @Dubdogelmo
As the UK needs to do.
I mean. The late 19th and 20th centuries taught that in a modern economy direct colonial imperialism doesn't turn a profit
Right now the UK is following a similar path as the Empire did
Increased autonomy for the lands
nought wrong with that
Until they eventually leave
Of course there is lmao
We saw with the french/British empires, imperial Japan, and even the Soviet union
The Dominion system is probably what kept the Empire together for so long
The mother country always net lost from it's directly controlled forigen teritories.
Stop stuff like the US revolution from happening again and getting them to pay for their own defence
Oh also Italy. But Italy barely counts
lul the Italian 'empire'
I think it was just Libya and Ethiopia
To be fair, lybia and eritria were both profitable and well integrated
Ethiopia and Somalia less so XD
And the Albanian occupation cost money ofc