Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

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2017-05-24 03:40:50 UTC  

you didnt want to believe the 5.3% GDP Growth/full employment for two decades under Stalin that was during the Great Depression while capitalists had 1 in 4 people unemployed and economic ruin

2017-05-24 03:41:01 UTC  

You hardly know anything about the implementation of socialism, and when shown proof you react saying that "you don't care about facts"

2017-05-24 03:41:19 UTC  

They kind of avoided the Great Depression because they were not economically connected with most of the world

2017-05-24 03:41:29 UTC  
2017-05-24 03:41:31 UTC  

I don't think Stalin is a good example for socialists to refer to

2017-05-24 03:41:35 UTC  

lmfao

2017-05-24 03:41:39 UTC  

Now you get it

2017-05-24 03:41:41 UTC  

lmao

2017-05-24 03:41:41 UTC  

i wsnt going to stop them

2017-05-24 03:41:48 UTC  

the growth was because he devoted his economy to hard industry

2017-05-24 03:41:55 UTC  

you realize if "most of the world" were socialist there would have been no great depression

2017-05-24 03:41:59 UTC  

it says nothing about living conditions

2017-05-24 03:42:09 UTC  

but there would have been a holomodor

2017-05-24 03:42:13 UTC  

so there's that

2017-05-24 03:42:13 UTC  

There was no Great Depression, yet living conditions were just as bad

2017-05-24 03:42:14 UTC  

because socialism, unlike capitalism, is not subject to boom/bust cycles and macroeconomic instability.

2017-05-24 03:42:26 UTC  

>just as bad

2017-05-24 03:42:29 UTC  

Stalin should not be considered as a good role model

2017-05-24 03:42:29 UTC  

That's not true at all either

2017-05-24 03:42:34 UTC  

that's completely untrue

2017-05-24 03:42:42 UTC  

in fact he should be thought of as a destroyer of socialism

2017-05-24 03:42:45 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki <:troll_king:312064227542040576>

2017-05-24 03:42:53 UTC  

living conditions relative to the times were fantastic especially compared to the living conditions during the great depression

2017-05-24 03:42:53 UTC  

what would Lenin have thought of Stalin becoming dictator?

2017-05-24 03:43:03 UTC  

In fact he specifically said he did not want that

2017-05-24 03:43:04 UTC  

"at least it wasnt trotsky"

2017-05-24 03:43:04 UTC  

Temporarily Inconvenienced Stalins

2017-05-24 03:43:07 UTC  

probably

2017-05-24 03:43:11 UTC  

😜

2017-05-24 03:43:36 UTC  

communism cannot happen without industrialization first

2017-05-24 03:43:45 UTC  

@OF-8 google "winston churchill bengal famine"

2017-05-24 03:43:45 UTC  

Stalin tried to rapidly industrialize, at the cost of what?

2017-05-24 03:44:06 UTC  

You tell me, since you seem to be so sure of it.

2017-05-24 03:44:09 UTC  

communism has always been meant to serve the people, not the state

2017-05-24 03:44:14 UTC  

state worship is fascism

2017-05-24 03:44:19 UTC  

@OF-8 Collectivism is the opposite of Individualism. Unlike temporarily embarrassed millionaires, socialists have no ambition to be dictators.

2017-05-24 03:44:22 UTC  

The state serves the people under the DotP.

2017-05-24 03:44:22 UTC  

the people were not served under Stalin

2017-05-24 03:44:24 UTC  

yeah, the indians werent exacly 'people' to the british

2017-05-24 03:44:26 UTC  

Yes they were.

2017-05-24 03:44:34 UTC  

typical economic warfare