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baby boomers were also very supportive of socialism
we had a lot of protests and movements
mid to late 20th century united states
"The Harvard University survey, which polled young adults between ages 18 and 29, found that 51 percent of respondents do not support capitalism. Just 42 percent said they support it."
I think this is a bit different than that, baby boomers were fairly conservative, and the millennials are much more open to radicalization
even better
I think the fact that Bernie Sanders almost secured the nominee for the democrats is a good sign of that
Yes, GWB killed more people than Stalin.
@Sorghagtani Beki Exactly
even the DSA has marxist caucuses in it that are beginning to grow in number
Capitalism reduces the material conditions of the worker, and poor conditions lead to revolutions.
I've always supported a return to a more New Deal Democracy that the Democratic party was known for in the past
right now it's a party of neoliberals
New Deal would delay capitalism's downfall for another half a century
We don't need that happening
we need better than that, actually
we need workers to be entitled to the full value of their labor
You don't believe socialism can ever come democratically?
well
The US' "democracy" is a joke
If there's enough public support, it'll happen regardless of what political elites think
it's a pissing contest of who can take more bribes, literally
@Sorghagtani Beki then you get allende'd
unless everyone is armed
and ready to defend themselves
@Sorghagtani Beki The only way to salvage your position is to show an improvement of worker conditions in the future of the US and a reduction in the disparity of income.
Although DeLeon did advocate socialists getting elected to enough offices where they change the constitution to exclude capitalists
lmao
Of course, no one is against that
that would never happen tbh
and worker conditions and reduction in the disparity of income do happen under New Deal Democracy
True, but the problem is that it creates a lull or complacency
I believe the socialist argument is that social democracy would always eventually turn into neoliberalism?
it makes the workers think welfare capitalism can be a permanent solution when it's a temporary one
that usually gets chopped up by mince meat in the future election cycles
even if it were permanent it wouldnt give workers the full value of their labor nor end the for-profit oil wars the US conducts.
Many americans don't like socialism because they feel they are only responsible for themselves and their families
If you can convince me that socialism is capable of being accepted by americans in the future, maybe my opinions would change
Democratic reforms only prolong the inevitable. Like using a tiny cup to scoop water from a sinking boat.