Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

Discord ID: 316839860411564033


2017-05-24 07:25:53 UTC  

a revolution in Russia was possible because everyone hated the form of government

2017-05-24 07:25:53 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki Urban americans aren't.

2017-05-24 07:25:55 UTC  

well

2017-05-24 07:25:58 UTC  

obviously not everyone

2017-05-24 07:26:00 UTC  

but you get the idea

2017-05-24 07:26:14 UTC  

Not true, most of them were illiterate peasants (literally) and really didn't know much about Tsarism or Socialism.

2017-05-24 07:26:22 UTC  

but they still had shit lives

2017-05-24 07:26:24 UTC  

Which is why the proletariat's party had to seize power for both

2017-05-24 07:26:27 UTC  

and therefore were open to revolution

2017-05-24 07:26:36 UTC  

especially against their evil lords and the tsar

2017-05-24 07:26:40 UTC  

who permits these lords

2017-05-24 07:26:44 UTC  

The peasantry was revolutionary but not consistently like the proletariat

2017-05-24 07:27:01 UTC  

hell, the bolshevik party was actually a very small minority in the beginning

2017-05-24 07:27:06 UTC  

If a shit life is all it takes for a successful revolution, the US is destined to fall.

2017-05-24 07:27:06 UTC  

that level of hatred simply does not exist in the US right now

2017-05-24 07:27:11 UTC  

when it was still the russian social democratic labor party

2017-05-24 07:27:33 UTC  

I mean, there's a renewed interest in socialism and most young people hate capitalism at the very least

2017-05-24 07:27:40 UTC  

this makes them ripe for agitation and education on marxism.

2017-05-24 07:28:09 UTC  

baby boomers were also very supportive of socialism

2017-05-24 07:28:17 UTC  

we had a lot of protests and movements

2017-05-24 07:28:29 UTC  

mid to late 20th century united states

2017-05-24 07:28:31 UTC  

"The Harvard University survey, which polled young adults between ages 18 and 29, found that 51 percent of respondents do not support capitalism. Just 42 percent said they support it."

2017-05-24 07:29:09 UTC  

I think this is a bit different than that, baby boomers were fairly conservative, and the millennials are much more open to radicalization

2017-05-24 07:29:21 UTC  

even better

2017-05-24 07:29:34 UTC  

I think the fact that Bernie Sanders almost secured the nominee for the democrats is a good sign of that

2017-05-24 07:29:35 UTC  

Yes, GWB killed more people than Stalin.

2017-05-24 07:29:43 UTC  
2017-05-24 07:29:54 UTC  

even the DSA has marxist caucuses in it that are beginning to grow in number

2017-05-24 07:29:56 UTC  

Capitalism reduces the material conditions of the worker, and poor conditions lead to revolutions.

2017-05-24 07:29:57 UTC  

I've always supported a return to a more New Deal Democracy that the Democratic party was known for in the past

2017-05-24 07:30:03 UTC  

right now it's a party of neoliberals

2017-05-24 07:30:23 UTC  

New Deal would delay capitalism's downfall for another half a century

2017-05-24 07:30:47 UTC  

We don't need that happening

2017-05-24 07:30:55 UTC  

we need better than that, actually

2017-05-24 07:30:58 UTC  

we need workers to be entitled to the full value of their labor

2017-05-24 07:31:02 UTC  

You don't believe socialism can ever come democratically?

2017-05-24 07:31:19 UTC  

well

2017-05-24 07:31:21 UTC  

not really

2017-05-24 07:31:29 UTC  

The US' "democracy" is a joke

2017-05-24 07:31:35 UTC  

If there's enough public support, it'll happen regardless of what political elites think