Message from @Sorghagtani Beki
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I think it's stubbornness
If Hillary had won we'd still have plenty of the problems we're having with Trump.
So you just contradicted yourself.
She wanted to overthrow Assad
She doesnt give a shit about single-payer
Trump is the least liked president in US history
she doesn't want free uni education
hillary is a neoliberal
what do you expect
@Sorghagtani Beki Hillary's approval ratings weren't far behind
Well your plan of voting doesn't work
voting got us hillary
which evidently got us trump
Sanders was very close to the nominee
and he would have beaten Trump
And even if he had won it would do nothing.
His own party is filled to the brim with bribed corporatists who would torpedo him and his policies.
Yes, he would have beaten Trump, but getting anything through Congress would have been nearly impossible.
New Deal Democracy worked because the people forced the hands of politicians
The Democrats even now attack Bernie and he hasn't even done anything wrong, they just have to smear him and attack him at every opportunity they get.
But i'm optimistic that it will change in the future
especially with more left wing friendly adults
People have apathy because most people realize they don't have any power in the system
They did have power when they used it in the past
No, not really, though
the New Deal was essentially the Democrats' plan to stop communism from coming to America.
Did you know FDR asked labor union leaders to force his hand?
FDR and his successors wanted to address unrest without revolution
that included universal healthcare
And look how it turned out
some of it still left but it's on life support
because, again, bourgies won't allow reforms to last for longer than they're useful.
Trump is already planning a 800 billion dollar cut to medicare, which is MASSIVE
He's going to artificially cause a crisis with the ACA by preventing funding for insurers
and eventually with his own shitty replacement
His stupidity will cause people to vote for more comprehensive healthcare policies when he gets impeached
And what? It will continue going like that forever.
Reformist policies implemented ---> reactionary repeals them, ruins them ---> reformist policies get implemented --> reactionary repeals them, ruins them ---> reformist policies get implemented
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