Message from @Sorghagtani Beki

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2017-05-24 07:39:57 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki There's already been subtle privatization

2017-05-24 07:40:26 UTC  

They're able to defund certain parts of it and generate crises to convince the public that there has to be more spending cuts to compensate.

2017-05-24 07:40:29 UTC  

You mean how Trump changes policy every week. The people tolerate anything.

2017-05-24 07:40:39 UTC  

People are actually very critical of him

2017-05-24 07:40:42 UTC  

minus his supporters

2017-05-24 07:40:46 UTC  

For God's sake Sub we have a president who won the election with millions of less votes than his opponent.

2017-05-24 07:40:48 UTC  

they keep backing him for some reason

2017-05-24 07:40:56 UTC  

I think it's stubbornness

2017-05-24 07:41:14 UTC  

If Hillary had won we'd still have plenty of the problems we're having with Trump.

2017-05-24 07:41:17 UTC  

So you just contradicted yourself.

2017-05-24 07:41:22 UTC  

She wanted to overthrow Assad

2017-05-24 07:41:28 UTC  

She doesnt give a shit about single-payer

2017-05-24 07:41:31 UTC  

Trump is the least liked president in US history

2017-05-24 07:41:35 UTC  

she doesn't want free uni education

2017-05-24 07:41:44 UTC  

hillary is a neoliberal

2017-05-24 07:41:47 UTC  

what do you expect

2017-05-24 07:41:48 UTC  

@Sorghagtani Beki Hillary's approval ratings weren't far behind

2017-05-24 07:41:56 UTC  

Well your plan of voting doesn't work

2017-05-24 07:41:59 UTC  

voting got us hillary

2017-05-24 07:42:04 UTC  

which evidently got us trump

2017-05-24 07:42:04 UTC  

Sanders was very close to the nominee

2017-05-24 07:42:10 UTC  

and he would have beaten Trump

2017-05-24 07:42:12 UTC  

And even if he had won it would do nothing.

2017-05-24 07:42:27 UTC  

His own party is filled to the brim with bribed corporatists who would torpedo him and his policies.

2017-05-24 07:42:45 UTC  

Yes, he would have beaten Trump, but getting anything through Congress would have been nearly impossible.

2017-05-24 07:42:56 UTC  

New Deal Democracy worked because the people forced the hands of politicians

2017-05-24 07:43:05 UTC  

The Democrats even now attack Bernie and he hasn't even done anything wrong, they just have to smear him and attack him at every opportunity they get.

2017-05-24 07:43:05 UTC  

in America right now, we have concerning levels of apathy

2017-05-24 07:43:15 UTC  

But i'm optimistic that it will change in the future

2017-05-24 07:43:30 UTC  

especially with more left wing friendly adults

2017-05-24 07:43:37 UTC  

People have apathy because most people realize they don't have any power in the system

2017-05-24 07:44:00 UTC  

They did have power when they used it in the past

2017-05-24 07:44:18 UTC  

No, not really, though

2017-05-24 07:44:30 UTC  

the New Deal was essentially the Democrats' plan to stop communism from coming to America.

2017-05-24 07:44:40 UTC  

Did you know FDR asked labor union leaders to force his hand?

2017-05-24 07:45:31 UTC  

FDR and his successors wanted to address unrest without revolution

2017-05-24 07:45:36 UTC  

that included universal healthcare

2017-05-24 07:45:42 UTC  

And look how it turned out

2017-05-24 07:45:49 UTC  

some of it still left but it's on life support

2017-05-24 07:45:59 UTC  

because, again, bourgies won't allow reforms to last for longer than they're useful.