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yet even the Tories cannot remove the basics of the NHS
This is all irrelevant because none of it is pertinent to workers getting the full value of their labor anyway 😜
no matter what they try
@Sorghagtani Beki There's already been subtle privatization
They're able to defund certain parts of it and generate crises to convince the public that there has to be more spending cuts to compensate.
You mean how Trump changes policy every week. The people tolerate anything.
People are actually very critical of him
minus his supporters
For God's sake Sub we have a president who won the election with millions of less votes than his opponent.
they keep backing him for some reason
I think it's stubbornness
If Hillary had won we'd still have plenty of the problems we're having with Trump.
So you just contradicted yourself.
She wanted to overthrow Assad
She doesnt give a shit about single-payer
Trump is the least liked president in US history
she doesn't want free uni education
hillary is a neoliberal
what do you expect
@Sorghagtani Beki Hillary's approval ratings weren't far behind
voting got us hillary
which evidently got us trump
Sanders was very close to the nominee
and he would have beaten Trump
And even if he had won it would do nothing.
His own party is filled to the brim with bribed corporatists who would torpedo him and his policies.
Yes, he would have beaten Trump, but getting anything through Congress would have been nearly impossible.
New Deal Democracy worked because the people forced the hands of politicians
The Democrats even now attack Bernie and he hasn't even done anything wrong, they just have to smear him and attack him at every opportunity they get.
in America right now, we have concerning levels of apathy
But i'm optimistic that it will change in the future
especially with more left wing friendly adults
People have apathy because most people realize they don't have any power in the system
They did have power when they used it in the past
No, not really, though
the New Deal was essentially the Democrats' plan to stop communism from coming to America.
Did you know FDR asked labor union leaders to force his hand?
FDR and his successors wanted to address unrest without revolution
that included universal healthcare