what type of flaws

The aristocratic communist party owns the manor and the land, and the workers work the land to stay and thrive

The workers only protest is leaving or begging for more rations

@Deleted User Only if you think of it as a static entity. The purpose is to increase class consciousness in the masses. There is no private ownership.

And the aristocrats turn a profit in trade of excess

this is what i mean by "accept ignorance and read more"... if you learn economics you get lessons on externality, such as when two firms have competing interests the market will incur a dead weight loss without regulation

health care when left to a free market falls into a 'death spiral'

There is no international trade or debt.

these two parallel conversations are stressing me out

also i have work in the morning

i should go to bed

There was in the USSR (no debt though)

Well at or out the USSR

Or in

They traded quite a lot

@Deleted User You mean give aid. There is no debt. How do you trade without tracking debts?

You make deals when your counterpart has the means to pay in full only

interest?

loans?

No need for such things

Debt is very useful as a leverage and bargaining tool in the right hands

i guess

what about starting firms

i feel like that's at least difficult without community banks/ loans unless you go crowdfunding or something

I can understand that, starting a sucessful business is hard enough even with a decent amount of investment capital

@not_matt in USSR under Stalin you could take loans for firms.

yeah thats my point

i cant tell when people are disagreeing with me tbh

were you backing me up there

whenever i get @'d i feel attacked initially

Also Stalin promoted loans to peasantry as a method to control peasantry.

Openly

Oy vey

@Deleted User He had to convenience many Marxist that loaning is a good strategy to get more control.

I mean, it is. At least, with the way societies tend to work

Loaning is inherently capitalistic

The loaner always seeks high returns

Charity on the other hand wouldn't

@Deleted User the USSR government didn't need money from peasantry. Only high degree of control.

High returns

Uncle Joe wouldn't charge interest.