i believe in free market

They worked to realize their own aristocratic interests

libertarianism is so close to being woke. i believe in the free market too, im an economics student ffs

The people had no real say

i just dont believe that state should control what someone does

@Deleted User The people shouldn't have a say. They do not know.

the state shouldn't exist!!!!

Technocracy?

and that free market will fix itself without goverment regulations

false

the free market has externalities and flaws, this is accepted among even bourgeois economists

@Deleted User That is just a protracted neo-feudalism then

If you think about it

what type of flaws

The aristocratic communist party owns the manor and the land, and the workers work the land to stay and thrive

The workers only protest is leaving or begging for more rations

@Deleted User Only if you think of it as a static entity. The purpose is to increase class consciousness in the masses. There is no private ownership.

And the aristocrats turn a profit in trade of excess

this is what i mean by "accept ignorance and read more"... if you learn economics you get lessons on externality, such as when two firms have competing interests the market will incur a dead weight loss without regulation

health care when left to a free market falls into a 'death spiral'

There is no international trade or debt.

these two parallel conversations are stressing me out

also i have work in the morning

i should go to bed

There was in the USSR (no debt though)

Well at or out the USSR

Or in

They traded quite a lot

@Deleted User You mean give aid. There is no debt. How do you trade without tracking debts?

You make deals when your counterpart has the means to pay in full only

interest?

loans?

No need for such things

Debt is very useful as a leverage and bargaining tool in the right hands

i guess

what about starting firms

i feel like that's at least difficult without community banks/ loans unless you go crowdfunding or something

I can understand that, starting a sucessful business is hard enough even with a decent amount of investment capital

@not_matt in USSR under Stalin you could take loans for firms.

yeah thats my point

i cant tell when people are disagreeing with me tbh