Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-11 06:36:33 UTC  

You are not a Pagan.

2017-06-11 06:36:49 UTC  

I am saying, you flip a coin, be righteous or not. This applies to everyone with the same probability. A Christian can be immoral just as much as a pagan.

2017-06-11 06:36:50 UTC  

Pagans are religions that are not Christianity. That is the definition.

2017-06-11 06:37:18 UTC  

Is the chance of immorality higher in pagan lands than Christian lands?

2017-06-11 06:37:24 UTC  

I'd say there is a higher chance in Pagan societies

2017-06-11 06:37:25 UTC  

No.

2017-06-11 06:37:44 UTC  

this is painful

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/323350069275394049/1284588419_2.jpg

2017-06-11 06:37:58 UTC  

For example: exploration of bisexual urges was encouraged in some Pagan societies.

2017-06-11 06:38:13 UTC  

If I recall the European pagans were more hedonistic than Christians by far.

2017-06-11 06:38:14 UTC  

whats wrong with bisexuality why is it immoral

2017-06-11 06:38:17 UTC  

Would you call that immoral?

2017-06-11 06:38:22 UTC  

Fucking youg boys was encouraged in Greek Pagan societies.

2017-06-11 06:38:37 UTC  

Those are all sins. They are immoral.

2017-06-11 06:38:42 UTC  

Immorality can manifest is lots of ways. But only when you are not righteous.

2017-06-11 06:38:47 UTC  

why are they immoral

2017-06-11 06:39:00 UTC  

A Christian immorality looks different than a pagan one.

2017-06-11 06:39:07 UTC  

Both go to Hell.

2017-06-11 06:39:28 UTC  

I have a question: can someone sent to hell be redemned while in hell?

2017-06-11 06:39:33 UTC  

No.

2017-06-11 06:39:37 UTC  

I say it would be better to not spread religion at all if chance of going to hell is the same for both. Let pagans enjoy hedonistic ways and still go to heaven at the same rate.

2017-06-11 06:39:39 UTC  

what makes something immoral tho

2017-06-11 06:40:13 UTC  

like what is immorality

2017-06-11 06:40:20 UTC  

Spreading religion lets the righteous get closer to God, and God wants this.

2017-06-11 06:41:02 UTC  

It takes away pleasure from those on the other end. Let them enjoy worldly pleasure yet still go to paradise.

2017-06-11 06:41:40 UTC  

They won't go to heaven.

2017-06-11 06:41:45 UTC  

Spreading the gospel makes resisting temptation harder for them. It seems as if it would be a burden.

2017-06-11 06:42:01 UTC  

If they do not go to heaven at the same rate, that is geographical favoritism.

2017-06-11 06:42:27 UTC  

A sin of a non-believer is just as bad as a sin of a believer, but a non-believer has some wriggling room. They can not be 100% hedonistic, murdering, and so on. And be accepted into heaven.

2017-06-11 06:42:28 UTC  

i think christianity might be immoral in the form of organized religion

2017-06-11 06:42:32 UTC  

Tengri, on the other hand, holds no favorites.

2017-06-11 06:42:39 UTC  

it harms other people i mean i think thats really the base of immorality

2017-06-11 06:42:56 UTC  

things that harm others are immoral

2017-06-11 06:43:16 UTC  

If I had to choose one god to worship at this point, Tengri seems both more appealing and powerful to me.

2017-06-11 06:43:55 UTC  

@Deleted User Your hedonism harms others.

2017-06-11 06:44:10 UTC  

my hedonism?

2017-06-11 06:44:13 UTC  

Should I stone you and ban your favorite pleasures?

2017-06-11 06:44:15 UTC  

Immorality results when we knowingly pursue something that is good in itself but bad for us in terms of what it means to be human.

2017-06-11 06:44:37 UTC  

explain to me what my hedonism is and how it harms others ironcross

2017-06-11 06:44:54 UTC  

Well, crossdressing as a spirtial and physical male.

2017-06-11 06:45:06 UTC  

Humans are naturally hedonistic just as our cousins, the Bonobos, are.

2017-06-11 06:45:21 UTC  

how does it harm people and how is it hedonistic