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These are Pagans, not Tengriists.
They are still Tengriists.
Paganism are any of the earlier-then-Christianity faithes in Europe.
oh shit back to tengriist
You are not a Pagan.
I am saying, you flip a coin, be righteous or not. This applies to everyone with the same probability. A Christian can be immoral just as much as a pagan.
Pagans are religions that are not Christianity. That is the definition.
Is the chance of immorality higher in pagan lands than Christian lands?
I'd say there is a higher chance in Pagan societies
No.
this is painful
For example: exploration of bisexual urges was encouraged in some Pagan societies.
If I recall the European pagans were more hedonistic than Christians by far.
whats wrong with bisexuality why is it immoral
Would you call that immoral?
Fucking youg boys was encouraged in Greek Pagan societies.
Those are all sins. They are immoral.
Immorality can manifest is lots of ways. But only when you are not righteous.
why are they immoral
A Christian immorality looks different than a pagan one.
I have a question: can someone sent to hell be redemned while in hell?
No.
I say it would be better to not spread religion at all if chance of going to hell is the same for both. Let pagans enjoy hedonistic ways and still go to heaven at the same rate.
what makes something immoral tho
like what is immorality
Spreading religion lets the righteous get closer to God, and God wants this.
It takes away pleasure from those on the other end. Let them enjoy worldly pleasure yet still go to paradise.
They won't go to heaven.
Spreading the gospel makes resisting temptation harder for them. It seems as if it would be a burden.
If they do not go to heaven at the same rate, that is geographical favoritism.
A sin of a non-believer is just as bad as a sin of a believer, but a non-believer has some wriggling room. They can not be 100% hedonistic, murdering, and so on. And be accepted into heaven.
i think christianity might be immoral in the form of organized religion
Tengri, on the other hand, holds no favorites.
it harms other people i mean i think thats really the base of immorality
things that harm others are immoral
If I had to choose one god to worship at this point, Tengri seems both more appealing and powerful to me.
@Deleted User Your hedonism harms others.
my hedonism?
Should I stone you and ban your favorite pleasures?
Immorality results when we knowingly pursue something that is good in itself but bad for us in terms of what it means to be human.