Message from @Sorghagtani Beki
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What did Aquinas argue in respect to Jesus
How does he know he is not a false messiah
That's a separate argument on the 'miracle' of early Christianity.
Resurrection?
There are other more recent miracles too.
One that comes to mind was in Portugal in 1917
Yes of course, fascism means "Authority" in Hebrew :^)
wait really
Not the resurrection. He means the success of the Apostles is starting the Church, it is seen as 'miraculous'.
From fishermen to wisemen etc.
Of course, which is why fascism is authoritarianism. The chosen language says so
@Deleted User That is an interesting take on it
At Portugal 1917 they were staring at the sun and were hoping for the miracle to occur
Staring at the sun is hard on the eyes
Well that wasn't the only thing that happened
Three girls saw apparitions?
Ghost sightings happen all the time
"Ghost" sightings
Basically, 3 children in Portugal saw on multiple occassions appartions of The Virgin Mary over a period of many months.
It was just them
I am starting to see a chink in the armour. Miracles that are explanable by empirical means are no longer miracles. If physics, for example, observes that matter is self-generating on a quantum level, if zero-point energy is discovered for example, it would hurt Aquinas' argument based on motion and causality.
Heh.
But later there was the Miracle of The Sun which was observed and reported on by many accounts. Including the anti-religious porutgese press.
_Then the Fundies say god created the science to make the miracles or the Fundies deny it_
Staring at the sun hurts the eyes
And many claimed nothing happened
*Stares at sun*
Brb taking a test
>1910s Portugal
>Fundies
lmao
If Aquinas was discredits as having based his arguments on oversimplified observations, it would undermine the whole Church. Very hard to recover from.
Has he been discredited?
Not yet.
I am just trying to envision a scenario where he could be.
It would be very hard for anyone to recover from their ideas being disproven
But I can see what you mean
I am sure the Church would just move back to Augustinan thinking.
'God is too mysterious' .