Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-13 03:04:58 UTC  

That's another thing. Catholic believe in miracles.

2017-06-13 03:05:42 UTC  

I like this man named Johannes

2017-06-13 03:06:44 UTC  

Well we can join the majority of modern rabbis that the scribes of Mt Zion are right in their interpretations of the Torah and the old laws

2017-06-13 03:06:57 UTC  

And thus make respecting the gentiles null

2017-06-13 03:07:01 UTC  

I never understood that. I mean, theologically, I understand why Catholics believe in miracles, and rationality, I know it follows after you can show logical proofs for God, but these too, the miracles, do not confirm to empiricism either. It is not step closer to God in the material base.

2017-06-13 03:07:03 UTC  

Because we can do whatever the fuck we want

2017-06-13 03:08:18 UTC  

Do all Fascists have authority fetishes?

2017-06-13 03:08:30 UTC  

If you show logical proof for God how do you know which religion's god it is

2017-06-13 03:08:40 UTC  

Aquinas showed it.

2017-06-13 03:09:04 UTC  

How does he know it is the Christian god

2017-06-13 03:09:13 UTC  

What did he argue for this

2017-06-13 03:09:21 UTC  

He used natural reason to proof the Trinity.

2017-06-13 03:09:33 UTC  

because he sent down his son down to earth lmao

2017-06-13 03:10:31 UTC  

What did Aquinas argue in respect to Jesus

2017-06-13 03:10:38 UTC  

How does he know he is not a false messiah

2017-06-13 03:11:49 UTC  

That's a separate argument on the 'miracle' of early Christianity.

2017-06-13 03:12:06 UTC  

Resurrection?

2017-06-13 03:12:31 UTC  

There are other more recent miracles too.

2017-06-13 03:12:40 UTC  

One that comes to mind was in Portugal in 1917

2017-06-13 03:12:45 UTC  

Yes of course, fascism means "Authority" in Hebrew :^)

2017-06-13 03:13:09 UTC  

wait really

2017-06-13 03:13:16 UTC  

Not the resurrection. He means the success of the Apostles is starting the Church, it is seen as 'miraculous'.

2017-06-13 03:13:28 UTC  

From fishermen to wisemen etc.

2017-06-13 03:13:30 UTC  

Of course, which is why fascism is authoritarianism. The chosen language says so

2017-06-13 03:14:07 UTC  

@Deleted User That is an interesting take on it

2017-06-13 03:15:44 UTC  

At Portugal 1917 they were staring at the sun and were hoping for the miracle to occur

2017-06-13 03:15:55 UTC  

Staring at the sun is hard on the eyes

2017-06-13 03:15:57 UTC  

Well that wasn't the only thing that happened

2017-06-13 03:16:15 UTC  

Three girls saw apparitions?

2017-06-13 03:16:22 UTC  

Ghost sightings happen all the time

2017-06-13 03:16:41 UTC  

"Ghost" sightings

2017-06-13 03:17:13 UTC  

Basically, 3 children in Portugal saw on multiple occassions appartions of The Virgin Mary over a period of many months.

2017-06-13 03:17:27 UTC  

Did anyone else see them or just these three kids

2017-06-13 03:18:20 UTC  

It was just them

2017-06-13 03:18:32 UTC  

I am starting to see a chink in the armour. Miracles that are explanable by empirical means are no longer miracles. If physics, for example, observes that matter is self-generating on a quantum level, if zero-point energy is discovered for example, it would hurt Aquinas' argument based on motion and causality.

2017-06-13 03:18:39 UTC  

Heh.

2017-06-13 03:19:07 UTC  

But later there was the Miracle of The Sun which was observed and reported on by many accounts. Including the anti-religious porutgese press.

2017-06-13 03:19:18 UTC  

_Then the Fundies say god created the science to make the miracles or the Fundies deny it_

2017-06-13 03:19:36 UTC  

Staring at the sun hurts the eyes