and slave/slavemaster
The angle I come from is more libertarian, changing what it is now with a communist dictatorship(which it almost always is) is simply a slight of hand
I understand the want to distance from USSR-like societies
I don't think many people want that back
maybe some russian nationalists
but it's not like the dictatorship was something unforseen that happened without anyone seeing it coming
russia under the tsar consisted of mainly illiterate peasants so they didn't even attempt democracy
at least not democracy as we know it
Did the original revolutionaries have democracy in mind at all?
iirc there was some local democracy, but the big things were done by the state
not on a state level
russian revolutionaries that is
in europe they probably had
but those failed mostly
That spooks me though
The people who implemented communism failed hard on that front
And I don't see how you could do it any other way
They'd get voted out at the first famine
it's not like it was the leaders' fault the famines happened
Well when you kill those who own the farms because they're bourgeoisie
they called the kulaks as it is technically incorrect to call them bourgeoissie
and they are as far as I know also to blame for the famines
along with bad weather
and just a badly industrialized country
Why would they want the famines?
They make money off of mkaking food
they make money off of selling them
which is an important difference
they owned the wheat so they controlled hte supply
if nothing was done they'd just sit on it until people began starviving and would pay a lot
The famine didn't happen because they hogged the wheat did it
partly I believe
So why didn't they barge their farms and take it?
but I'm no expert here
well that's what the revolution is about
but kulaks can hire weapons
It was already communist by the first big ukranian famine
and suddenly you have class warfare
>People who use the famine as a reason to call Communism obsolete
Hey remember the Irish Potato Famine?
I could use many reasons fam
