Message from @Timo)))

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2017-07-06 16:26:44 UTC  

they called the kulaks as it is technically incorrect to call them bourgeoissie

2017-07-06 16:26:58 UTC  

and they are as far as I know also to blame for the famines

2017-07-06 16:27:08 UTC  

along with bad weather

2017-07-06 16:27:17 UTC  

and just a badly industrialized country

2017-07-06 16:27:23 UTC  

Why would they want the famines?

2017-07-06 16:27:29 UTC  

They make money off of mkaking food

2017-07-06 16:27:42 UTC  

they make money off of selling them

2017-07-06 16:27:50 UTC  

which is an important difference

2017-07-06 16:28:03 UTC  

they owned the wheat so they controlled hte supply

2017-07-06 16:28:21 UTC  

if nothing was done they'd just sit on it until people began starviving and would pay a lot

2017-07-06 16:28:26 UTC  

The famine didn't happen because they hogged the wheat did it

2017-07-06 16:28:34 UTC  

partly I believe

2017-07-06 16:28:49 UTC  

So why didn't they barge their farms and take it?

2017-07-06 16:28:54 UTC  

but I'm no expert here

2017-07-06 16:29:03 UTC  

well that's what the revolution is about

2017-07-06 16:29:12 UTC  

but kulaks can hire weapons

2017-07-06 16:29:19 UTC  

It was already communist by the first big ukranian famine

2017-07-06 16:29:20 UTC  

and suddenly you have class warfare

2017-07-06 16:29:32 UTC  

>People who use the famine as a reason to call Communism obsolete

2017-07-06 16:29:53 UTC  

Hey remember the Irish Potato Famine?

2017-07-06 16:29:54 UTC  

I could use many reasons fam

2017-07-06 16:30:19 UTC  

famine is luckily a pretty unlikely thing to happen today

2017-07-06 16:30:48 UTC  

at least in the industrialized world which includes russia today

2017-07-06 16:30:59 UTC  

dunno about china tbh

2017-07-06 16:31:06 UTC  

and india

2017-07-06 16:31:13 UTC  

It's retarded that just because there was a famine people think it MUST have been Communism's fault.

2017-07-06 16:31:35 UTC  

It stands out because capitalistic societies don't get that at all

2017-07-06 16:31:40 UTC  

Unless a war is happening

2017-07-06 16:31:47 UTC  

Irish Potato Famine

2017-07-06 16:32:07 UTC  

That was the government making the Irish starve

2017-07-06 16:32:20 UTC  

Thus it was Capitalism's fault.

2017-07-06 16:32:21 UTC  

not capitalism, which would make it possible to sell the irish their food

2017-07-06 16:32:33 UTC  

government stands in the way of capitalism often

2017-07-06 16:33:13 UTC  

So when there's famine in a Communist country it's Communism's fault but when it's in a Capitalist country it's not Capitalism's fault.

2017-07-06 16:33:17 UTC  

Amazing logic

2017-07-06 16:33:22 UTC  

That's not what I said

2017-07-06 16:33:27 UTC  

Yes you did

2017-07-06 16:34:01 UTC  

State overlooked farming was a disaster because the state isn't the expert in that field, the farmers are

2017-07-06 16:34:19 UTC  

What happened in the UK was not a failure of farming but the government cracking down on the Irish

2017-07-06 16:35:03 UTC  

I can't handle the cringe

2017-07-06 16:35:15 UTC  

You're unable to argue, the other guy was sane