Message from @Timo)))

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2017-07-06 16:39:43 UTC  

not far off tbh

2017-07-06 16:39:50 UTC  

sure it is

2017-07-06 16:40:04 UTC  

Communism and Slave Society "Not far off"

2017-07-06 16:40:05 UTC  

Not being able to complain like in the USSR is something harsh even for a slave

2017-07-06 16:40:24 UTC  

but you're very right that marxist-leninist are more concerned about other things than liberty

2017-07-06 16:40:59 UTC  

but I honestly doubt a ML revolution would happen in modern 1st world country

2017-07-06 16:41:20 UTC  

I'm not even sure what it would be, it feels so unrealistic

2017-07-06 16:41:33 UTC  

because radical leftism is almost dead

2017-07-06 16:42:09 UTC  

at least it's growing slightly I think, but it's gonna be a good while before we have socialists or communists at the political debate again

2017-07-06 16:43:02 UTC  

Socialism is still alive a bit, communism is so taboo in the west(thankfully)

2017-07-06 16:43:17 UTC  

Thanks to misleading propaganda*

2017-07-06 16:43:22 UTC  

Something's going to replace the neo liberal governments, just have to see what it will be

2017-07-06 16:43:26 UTC  

both socialists and communists are concerned about the exact same

2017-07-06 16:43:31 UTC  

getting to socialism

2017-07-06 16:43:43 UTC  

And eventually Communism.

2017-07-06 16:43:50 UTC  

yes that's what I think, but socialism is for some reason thought of as different

2017-07-06 16:44:05 UTC  

that's because people think socialism is something it's not

2017-07-06 16:44:14 UTC  

people think bernie sanders or the scandi countries are socialism

2017-07-06 16:44:31 UTC  

But the red scare is the main cause why Socialism and Communism are so unpopular in the west.

2017-07-06 16:44:32 UTC  

which is frankly just a mark of shame on actual socialists

2017-07-06 16:44:39 UTC  

yeah, they think the Dutch system is socialist

2017-07-06 16:45:00 UTC  

I wish political discourse would return to a more ideological state

2017-07-06 16:45:07 UTC  

where people would call themselves what they are

2017-07-06 16:45:11 UTC  

Partly, but lets just say that communism doesn't have a whole lot to show for their decades in power to persuade the average joe

2017-07-06 16:45:35 UTC  

at least as long as the USSR is the main thing peopoel connect with communism

2017-07-06 16:48:38 UTC  

I wonder how long it'll be before leftism because a part of political debate again

2017-07-06 16:49:02 UTC  

at least social democracy made a comeback with bernie sanders which I think is good but untimately won't do much

2017-07-06 16:50:42 UTC  

don't see it happening any time soon, the left seems to be losing everywhere in the west

2017-07-06 16:51:00 UTC  

But of course, I didn't think trump would be president 2 years ago, who knows

2017-07-06 16:51:19 UTC  

The Red Scare atrocity seems to still have effect on today's Western culture, sadly.

2017-07-06 16:51:41 UTC  

I think it's more than that

2017-07-06 16:52:16 UTC  

You can think what you want, but you're one of the people who is poisoned by the red scare.

2017-07-06 16:52:48 UTC  

The way you talk you'll never convince anyone to turn communist

2017-07-06 16:53:31 UTC  

You'd turn stalin into an ancap

2017-07-06 16:54:06 UTC  

Hopeless

2017-07-06 17:01:59 UTC  

Timo

2017-07-06 17:02:15 UTC  

And what happens when the Netherlands goes into recession?

2017-07-06 17:02:24 UTC  

When all those social democratic policies can't be afforded anymore?

2017-07-06 17:02:35 UTC  

When the businessmen bleed money?

2017-07-06 17:03:01 UTC  

Your perfect little paradise won't exist anymore.